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$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -
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BB: $63.37
Hero (UTG): $102.60
MP: $147.88
CO: $100.00
BTN: $112.85
SB: $73.45

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with T 9
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) J 3 T (2 players)
Hero bets $7.00, CO raises to $18, Hero ? ? ?

20/15/6.2/22/40/(429) | VPIP/PFR/AF/WTSD/W$SD/(Hands)
3-Bet: 6.7%

Fold to F C-Bet: 30%
Raise F C-Bet: 60%
AFq F/T/R: 58 / 43 / 17
WWSF: 38%

- bluff donk F+T w/ missed PP

Preflop
I think this is a standard open. There was a fish on BB.

Flop
I would like to find the best gameplan against this player. Say I have such hand like here, I flopped 2ndp+loads of backdoors.
I don't know if he is stabby (stabbed IP OTF only once), but I know he raises a shitload. So my initial plan was to c-bet and not fold against his raise.

I think I can x/c on cards like T, 8, and x/f to the river bet. What about the rest?
5 is a total blank, but he sets up a 1/2 PSB river shove, leaving me with 25% pot odds.


Or maybe I should bluff 3b on the flop?

Bump #1

Fold pre if you have raise happy reg behind. PFR not standard at all.

Make poker easier for yourself. If you know someone's going to raise and you have a marginal hand to bet, don't bet. Is villain raising Jx here? If not his value range is so narrow just ship it in his face to teach him a lesson. If he is raising Jx, you have 5 outs to suck out. If his value range is only overpairs, sets, and 2p, he really should only have 2 combos of JTs, 1 combo of TT, 3 combos of 33 and maybe 3 combos of JJ if he doesn't 3b that pre.

One last thing, if villain is aggro and bluffing you a lot, you are lighting money on fire by keep getting yourself in spots where you need to hero off your entire stack to find out if guy is bluffing. Ask yourself this question. How do you adjust vs an aggro?

well if he rises happily and you have marginal hand maybe it would be best to check the flop and check/call turn if you get additional equity. I admit that playing hands passively sucks but at least you'll be able to keep the pot small with your weak hand...

with this particular hand (midpair, tons of backdoors) and this player, seems like a pretty ideal time to find out how stabby he is

Yeah I think x/c line would be the best. At that time I forgot to open his popup before making my decision.

@Shippopotamus
Thanks for advice. I have to find out what he is raising with, then adjust and kill him. Trust me, I am not afraid to adjust

Pre-flop is standard, Flop is standard and now either bet/fold the flop or use street projection, plan on how to react to various turn cards and bet/call the flop instead.

I don't like 3betting here at all.

Edit: Don't let aggressive regs take you off hands when you've got a fish in the blinds, the opportunity cost of getting "raised" by the reg isn't as bad as passing on the opportunity to play with the fish when you have a decent hand.

Flop is standard and now either bet/fold the flop or use street projection, plan on how to react to various turn cards and bet/call the flop instead.

I am actually asking about the postflop play and our best plan on particular cards. If we c-bet and then call, then what are doing on different turn cards when he barrels?

Flop: ($9.50) J 3 T (2 players)
Hero bets $7.00, CO raises to $18, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($45.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $28.00, Hero ? ? ?

i think this turn really doesnt change a whole lot. give a little more equity to some of his range, but i would assume plan remains the same to call here and river unless its a horrible one. but who knows i suck at pokerz

Well, you need a plan for A, K, Q, J T, 9, 8, 7 and clubs, with 6, 5, 4, 2 off suit being clear check/folds so now categorize the rest of the cards by sub sets, as in over cards that strengthen your perceived range, over cards that strengthen your perceived range and give you additional equity, over cards that increase your perceived range and give you less equity, cards that give you trips, cards that give your 2 pair but complete the straight, cards that give you a draw but don't complete any draws in his range etc.

The most interesting cards are going to be A, K, Q, J of clubs, T, 9 with 8 clubs, 7 clubs and 3 clubs being the next most important cards.

After that, you can check/fold, check/call, check/raise or lead, just ask yourself when you'd do what and on which card and why.

If he raises hands like KQ/AQ/98/87, then there is simply no way to fold this hand, otherwise calling the flop is money burning.

- A - improves AQ (12), KQ (16) = 28
- K - improves KQ (12), AQ (16), = 28
- Q - improves AQ (12), KQ (12) = 24
- J - it doesn't matter, we are still behind, but we are already dead against JTs (1 or 2), JJ (1), TT (3), 33 (3) = 7-8
- T - it helps us a bit against AQ and KQ, but we are drawing dead vs FHs
- 9 - improves KQ (16), 87s (4) = 20....and helps a bit vs AQ
- 8 - it's a blank unless opponent plays 97s
- 7 - improves 98s (1 or 2)
- 6 - 2 - blanks
- - it gives us loads of equity, even if opponents range consists of 33, TT, JTs and only 6 semi-bluff combos like AQ (all with clubs) -> we have 50% equity

I have done some calcs in Excel. To make it a little bit easier, I assumed he ALWAYS fires the turn with a following range: { TT, 33, AQs, KQs, JTs, 98s, 87s, AQo, KQo }

Our equity vs this range on all possible turn cards is:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg859/scaled.php?server=859&filename=evcalcsforpokerhand.jpg&res=landing

Conclusion:
- A, K, Q are definitely the worst cards and we should x/f on all of them (even on clubs)
- 9 gives us some equity, but we may be already dead against two pair/set/straight -> x/f
- We should x/c on the rest of deck providing that Villain barrels them with the assumed range

Well it's a good start, one of the things I think you need to think about is whether or not the over cards are better for his entire range or better for your perceived range, what do you think he's going to do with the air that he raised when the A, K, Q falls and do you think it gives him any points of honesty where he'd avoid barreling with marginal draw equity or showdown value?

For instance if a K falls, do you think he'd barrel 98?

For instance if a K falls, do you think he'd barrel 98?

Now we are playing in a guessing game, but I think he'd continue on a potential "scare card", even if it isn't probably in his range. Mainly because he still has over 18% equity + this card provides some fold equity as well.

I seriously doubt it, consider how the K intersects with our flop calling range, T9s is the bottom of our flop calling range here where AA-QQ, AJ-AT, KQ-KTs, QJ-QTs are the most likely hands we've actually bet/called with, and the K is a pretty horrible card for him to barrel because almost our entire range improves on it.

You need to learn to turn the chess board around and look at the position from the other side as well, think about what he thinks you have when you bet/call.

You guys are making SSNL WAY harder then it needs to be. If you raised T9s because you want to get in a pot with fish, but instead reg called IP and fish folded, your plan failed and just make your hand as easy to play as possible. You would never have a plan to iso reg OOP with a marginal hand. Why? Because it is -EV to play T9s OOP vs competent opponents. Why is it -EV to play T9s OOP vs competent opponents? Because you get into shitty spots like this where you don't know what to do and your choice is to either call off your stack to figure out if he is bluffing or feel like a nit for folding what's likely the best hand. Both option kinda suck but the downside risk of the 2nd option is 3bb in comparison to 100bb for the 1st option.