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Hi guys,

this is a zoom hand vs two standard regualrs, this means there are only stats no history/image etc. The openraiser is 25/23 60h and the squeezer is 25/20 120h.

Poker Stars $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1723281
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Hero (BTN): $230.06 - VPIP: 46, PFR: 39, 3B: 17, AF: 2.6, Hands: 20238
SB: $102.21 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 0.0, Hands: 21
BB: $100.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 6, AF: 4.0, Hands: 122
UTG: $157.99 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 3.5, Hands: 118
MP: $245.16 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 22, 3B: 15, AF: 1.4, Hands: 55
CO: $237.42 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 25, 3B: 14, AF: 2.3, Hands: 117

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with X X
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, SB raises to $9, 1 fold, MP calls $6, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($28.00) T 6 K (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $15.00, SB folds, MP calls $15

Turn: ($58.00) 6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $35.00, MP calls $35

River: ($128.00) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero (170 behind)

So deep Villian would 4bet AA/KK preflop and a flush(and JJ) bet the flop or check/raises on Flop or turn most of the time i think. Therefore,villian hast never a nutted hand on the river. Do u think a shove would be profitable? KxJc has a very hard time calling there.

What do u think?

Mc8

Doesnt look too strong. A lot of Acx hands, could also have slowplayed pocket 10s, KQs, maybe KJs - but I never see him having KJo there, should have folded that pre. After I dont know what you have I cant say if you should bluff here - it depends...

After I dont know what you have I cant say if you should bluff here - it depends...

if u think about bluffing or not, my hand doesn´t matter

I think a shove is very profitable here, especially if you have a big club blocker. I would have sized it a bit bigger on flop/turn though.

His range is huge. The squeeze was very small.

Shoving looks pretty bluffy. If you had a flush would you shove against a weak non-nutted range?

if u think about bluffing or not, my hand doesn´t matter

no, because if you have the ace of clubs, it changes his range a lot. And you also could have some blockers etc.

but if I bluffed i wouldnt shove

If you had a flush would you shove against a weak non-nutted range?

here, I pobably wouldn´t, (i would bet the turn a little bit bigger with a flush and then shove the river) but thats not the way ssnl players think in this spot. Be honest, if u are in villians shoes and a 25/20 Reg with no history or any dynamic shoves this river, would u call with a pair of kings or even with TT(except u would bet or ch/R the flop with TT) ??? In my opinion, most people think "oberbet/overshoves in 50 -200NL are very big hands most of the time"

Mc8

We would 3bet AK pf or 4betshove it. Maybe KQ too. Would we bet Kx here on the river?

Our valuerange = flushes and boats?

With your stats he might float lighter with JJ here, but i really dont see him call a riverbet with anything but a strong hand.

I guess if you believe that shoving looks stronger than betting a normal size and it will significantly reduce his calling range then it's perfectly fine.

here, I pobably wouldn´t, (i would bet the turn a little bit bigger with a flush and then shove the river) but thats not the way ssnl players think in this spot. Be honest, if u are in villians shoes and a 25/20 Reg with no history or any dynamic shoves this river, would u call with a pair of kings or even with TT(except u would bet or ch/R the flop with TT) ??? In my opinion, most people think "oberbet/overshoves in 50 -200NL are very big hands most of the time"

Mc8

Well TT is a boat, so I doubt he's folding that....but you're right I don't expect to see TT here that often. The only problem I see with this is that in today's games, I think people have a tendency to just never fold when they go into ch/c mode, especially when the board runs out pretty clean. That said, I don't play zoom and game dynamics are probably a lot different. With a clean image, bluffing might be good here.

How do you guys play your value range here? What is the worst hand you value bet and what sizing are you betting?

Given you're playing IN a zoom ship river with your
whole range!

Well TT is a boat, so I doubt he's folding that....

yeah, TT doesn´t fold. My fault

You have hidden your hole cards, which does make a difference. Holding A highly reduces the likelihood of him having the nut flush. I think you have something from this range: { JJ-22, AQs-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AQo-AJo, KQo }

Given your bet sizing I guess you have a draw, something like AQ, QJ or bare AcXx or a weak made hand (JJ comes to mind).

I agree Villain can't have KK here, TT is also unlikely. 66 is only one combo. I also do think he could possibly fold a flush to your shove, because board is paired. But then you should have prepared your plan earlier and bet bigger on the F and T to make a well sized river shove, which IMO should have enough FEQ to show a profit.