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Poker Stars $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1721579
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BTN: $101.93 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
SB: $209.01 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 1.4, Hands: 642
BB: $144.52 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 28
Hero (UTG): $201.50 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 3.0, Hands: 45298
MP: $101.35 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 10, AF: 4.0, Hands: 57
CO: $158.56 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 19, 3B: 14, AF: 2.8, Hands: 63 (folded 0 out of 5 times on a cbet, 41% agg freq%)

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, CO raises to $9, 3 folds, Hero raises to $23, CO calls $14

Flop: ($47.50) J T 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $18.00, CO calls $18

Turn: ($83.50) K (2 players)
Hero bets $34.00, CO calls $34

River: ($151.50) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $83.56, Hero folds

Question 1: is my 4bet size okay?

Question 2: did I play the hand well? Its hard to construct a 4bet call range for him, but its something like this: TT+,AQs+,KQs,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,AQo+,KQo, some combos of a handtype more and others less. For instance I dont really think he is 3betting KQs. I dont think on river he will call a lot JT,T9,QJ,QQ, the only hands I beat.

Question 3: if the river was a blank, I would have shoved because he can call AK, KQ, and maybe some QJ, fine?

I think you could 4bet slightly bigger since you are somewhat deep. The rest is well played imo.

Why are you betting so small on the flop and turn? You are laying incredible odds to an in position player in a huge pot.

Why are you betting so small on the flop and turn? You are laying incredible odds to an in position player in a huge pot.

I thought that was better in a 4bet pot because you can get the money in on river this way. But on boards like this, yes I give very good odds, that's also a problem I doubting about. I can also bet flop big, turn all in. Dunno what is best. I think he will still an all in with QQ,KQ, maybe AJ if I take that line. I have really no idea on boards like this

Are you going to be bluffing (bet folding) frequently in this spot?

Are you going to be bluffing (bet folding) frequently in this spot?

mmm good point, dont think so. I dont think I have a 4bet bluffrange here. So betting big is the best

If you don't have any bluffs in your range, you should bet smaller. If your range is strong, how do you expect to get called by worse when you bet huge?

I like to lay my opponents 10-1 with my 4 bet. Just make it 25 and he looses his setmining odds and since the pot is bigger your decisions will become easier (because of pot stack ratio)

But don't be too hard on yourself. The flop is tough to play deep out of position.

If you don't have any bluffs in your range, you should bet smaller. If your range is strong, how do you expect to get called by worse when you bet huge?

my perceived range is weaker.

I think just because the pot is 4bet it doesn't mean your size has to be tiny, it depends on stack sizes. Say you open BTN, SB 3bets with 100 BBs effective, you 4bet and he calls. This is usually a good spot to bet 30% on the flop because it sets up for like a 75% pot shove. It matters alot that you are 100 BBs deep and IP, which is not the case in your hand.

I would have cbet flop biggish (~32) so I can shove turn, since that board just smashes what we can assume is his 3b/call range. I mean you're always strong here so who cares.

I think the main problem with your sizing, especially in this particular board, is that it creates this exact type of situation, since your making a 3 streets affair of what could be only 2 streets. If you were over 200 BBs deep then you will probably have to see a river so there's more flexibility I guess.

As played, river is definitely a c/f.

I think just because the pot is 4bet it doesn't mean your size has to be tiny, it depends on stack sizes. Say you open BTN, SB 3bets with 100 BBs effective, you 4bet and he calls. This is usually a good spot to bet 30% on the flop because it sets up for like a 75% pot shove. It matters alot that you are 100 BBs deep and IP, which is not the case in your hand.

I would have cbet flop biggish (~32) so I can shove turn, since that board just smashes what we can assume is his 3b/call range. I mean you're always strong here so who cares.

I think the main problem with your sizing, especially in this particular board, is that it creates this exact type of situation, since your making a 3 streets affair of what could be only 2 streets. If you were over 200 BBs deep then you will probably have to see a river so there's more flexibility I guess.

As played, river is definitely a c/f.

Okay thanks again,

what is your plan with AQ,AK,JJ,TT when he 3bets preflop in this spot? And 100bb deep?

Flat AQ and TT, 4bet AK, JJ depends. Actually, all those could be 4bets for value if you think hes not folding much of his 3bet range, so I might 4bet/fold AQ and TT.

I was curious to this because in my last thread you said you are more inclined to 3bet depolarized. I flat JJ,TT here for setvalue. I do also flat AK. AQ pbb fold, because I dont know if he 3bets enought that I can bluff 4bet or 4bet for value or flat for value.

Isn't your HUD showing his 3bet to be 14%?

What I meant is that if he's 3betting and then calling a 4bet IP with stuff like KQs and JTs then TT+ and AQ+ are all very easy value 4bets. If that is the case, but his shoving range is very tight, then hands like TT and AQ can be 4b/folds for value. If he's either shoving or folding to a 4bet, then flat the 3bet.

14% on 63 hands doesnt say a lot. Maybe he had 6 opportunities to 3bet and 3bet once out of them.

And I agree with your other points but that are just the "if" points. If I knew for sure villain was doing X I would do Y obv. But vs ~unknowns Im always cautious.