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Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $111.03 (111 bb)
SB: $103.15 (103.2 bb)
BB: $226.20 (226.2 bb)
UTG: $228.68 (228.7 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $210.55 (210.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN folds, SB calls $2.50, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $9, SB calls $9

Flop: ($36) T 2 J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $18.50, SB folds, BB raises to $47.50, Hero folds

I have 50 hands on villain that seems aggro:
22/22 3B:20 (5/24) / AF:14

No idea what he does this with and if it makes sense to do this with anything. Could he think that my sizing is weak and was giving up but decided to c/r then? Since I had no idea where I was I folded.

Should I check back the flop?

your questions are pointed too much toward 'what should i do?' - start with hand reading and let that come naturally

first, what was your reason for your bet and your sizing? what kind of range does the SB have? the BB? are they c/c here? c/r? c/f? how does its being 3way change things?

second, be more specific with stats or reads when the sample is so limited. 20% 3bet might be 2/10 or it might be 6/30. this can make a big difference in how wide his range is here.

i'd likely fold at this point, as 1) most of his hands that do this that are bluffing would probably just bet this particular flop 2) this flop should hit you hard enough that it's kind of poor to bluff. still, the decision leading up to this point is more important than the one now...

I am new to this forums and trying to learn the game as well, i have some questions.

What was villains c/r percentage? He seems to be very aggro on that small sample you have.

Did you ever see him fold BB to a CO or BTN raise ?

Have you observed him do any c/r against other players? Did that go to showdown and did you observe what his holdings was at that time ?

Also it would be good if you omit the result in the hand. Otherwise you will color the opinion of most who read and are going to answer the post.

I updated the stats part - fair comment.
btw this is a zoom hand so I don't know more about villains.

When it goes x/x on the flop I thought that BB was giving up. SB could be c/r or c/c but more than likely c/f.

SB's range is weighed towards PP, SC.
He could c/r KsQs, JTs, 22. He might c/c QJs. He will prob c/f all the rest.

BB would CBet TT and JJ 3 way imo. Even though I would CBet AsKs and AsQs, he might that that c/r line with those. Maybe he could c/r AA,KK and QQ too. If he does (even 50% of the QQ+ combos) I should b/f and if he does c/r only w AsQs+ I should b/c I guess (I have 45% equity)

That is for the ranges.

The reason why I CBet is to take the pot down now before it get's too ugly/prtect my equity. The reason for the sizing is that I don't think I need to CBet big as SB will c/f mostly or c/r his very strong hands. I was b/f vs SB.

Also it would be good if you omit the result in the hand. Otherwise you will color the opinion of most who read and are going to answer the post.

Which result? That I Folded? I don't think it will influence the readers. That is my question in the end.

I am new to this forums and trying to learn the game as well, i have some questions.

What was villains c/r percentage? He seems to be very aggro on that small sample you have.

Did you ever see him fold BB to a CO or BTN raise ?

Have you observed him do any c/r against other players? Did that go to showdown and did you observe what his holdings was at that time ?

Also it would be good if you omit the result in the hand. Otherwise you will color the opinion of most who read and are going to answer the post.

given the unusual preflop/flop line, particularly with regard to stats, how often he has c/r will be less useful than how he has played after 3betting. you are very focused on this c/r when it is c/r following the 3bet that is more particular.

agree that omitting results is better

Which result? That I Folded? I don't think it will influence the readers. That is my question in the end.

it does, because it is possible you continued and the result is surprising or confirming. people may suspect you post as a brag or as a results-oriented complaint. in short, you generate interest by leaving the result in suspense.

I updated the stats part - fair comment.
btw this is a zoom hand so I don't know more about villains.

When it goes x/x on the flop I thought that BB was giving up. SB could be c/r or c/c but more than likely c/f.

SB's range is weighed towards PP, SC.
He could c/r KsQs, JTs, 22. He might c/c QJs. He will prob c/f all the rest.

BB would CBet TT and JJ 3 way imo. Even though I would CBet AsKs and AsQs, he might that that c/r line with those. Maybe he could c/r AA,KK and QQ too. If he does (even 50% of the QQ+ combos) I should b/f and if he does c/r only w AsQs+ I should b/c I guess (I have 45% equity)

That is for the ranges.

The reason why I CBet is to take the pot down now before it get's too ugly/prtect my equity. The reason for the sizing is that I don't think I need to CBet big as SB will c/f mostly or c/r his very strong hands. I was b/f vs SB.

sb doesn't have many strong hands. he doesn't have many c/c hands, either. bb is in the same spot, actually, although he potentially can play strong hands like this.

i find this quite unusual simply because this is a really odd way to play KK/AA and borders on overplaying. it certainly is that if you are b/f AJ, and this line seems to put more pressure on your range compared to simply betting.

i think checking back the flop would be wise if you expect to get little action here. there aren't many awful turn and river cards even if there are bad ones, and you have position anyway.

if you do bet, i like your size. they are not going to suddenly elect to c/r bluff, and this lets them c/c with more bluffcatchers.

given the unusual preflop/flop line, particularly with regard to stats, how often he has c/r will be less useful than how he has played after 3betting. you are very focused on this c/r when it is c/r following the 3bet that is more particular.

agree that omitting results is better

You are correct and i thank you for pointing that out, i will try and think of it and hopefully incorporate that way of thinking when reading and posting.