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Villian is tag reg, 22/17/6, opening 48% on the BTN and 4bing 11% over a large sample

is this a +ev shove?


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BB: $200.00
UTG: $214.00
MP: $182.65
CO: $597.46
BTN: $200.00
Hero (SB): $403.69

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with 4 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $4.00, Hero raises to $14.00, 1 fold, BTN raises to $34.00, Hero ?,

with that info you gave it's kind of hard say, is he a guy that 4bet folds a lot oop/ip? What he can 4b call with? I wouldnt't probably 3bet first place vs btn min raise, we get a good price for set mining and even though he opens 48% otb we can play postflop and turn our hand in to bluff on some boards if we dont
Hit a set. With 3betting we are giving him good price to call it, so unless you're 3betting a lot i wouldnt't be so sure if he 4bet bluffs (11% 4b isn't that much) a lot in this place.

Don't 3bet / 5bet small pocket pairs vs min open. Vs min opens you should have a calling range in the SB and 44 is one of them

dam a call here pre is prob gonna win it post flop.

your money from 3b/5b small PP comes from Villain 4bet/folding too much while getting it in still having about 30%-40% equity.
so it depends on what hands he is 4betting. when he is opening 48% and 4betting 11% of that that are about 5% of hands and that could be a range of 99+,AQs+,AQo+. so he may not have a 4bet bluffing range and 5betshoving would be hugely -EV.
but if you think he would just call some of the medium pocket pairs to a 3bet and has a big enough 4bet bluffing range it should be fine if Villain opened bigger.

Don't 3bet / 5bet small pocket pairs vs min open. Vs min opens you should have a calling range in the SB and 44 is one of them

this makes a lot of sense, thanks

Don't 3bet / 5bet small pocket pairs vs min open. Vs min opens you should have a calling range in the SB and 44 is one of them

But keep an eye on the BB if he is sqz happy its better to 3bet ~ 6-9. But if he is reaaaaly sqz happy sth like 10+ just call baby pairs pre and shove any PP to his sqz.

your money from 3b/5b small PP comes from Villain 4bet/folding too much while getting it in still having about 30%-40% equity.
so it depends on what hands he is 4betting. when he is opening 48% and 4betting 11% of that that are about 5% of hands and that could be a range of 99+,AQs+,AQo+. so he may not have a 4bet bluffing range and 5betshoving would be hugely -EV.
but if you think he would just call some of the medium pocket pairs to a 3bet and has a big enough 4bet bluffing range it should be fine if Villain opened bigger.

this + what improva said

you can't just auto 3b/5b these hands. the fact you made this thread shows that you are not and that you are thinking about it carefully. it will very +ev v some but on the whole ppl are more careful about call/fold/4b v active 3bettors.