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wrap_it

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villain 30/25 over 60 hands
4-6 tables from russia
seems really splashy

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($96.75)
BB ($188.45)
UTG ($106.32)
CO ($100)
Hero ($105)

Dealt to Hero AClub 8Diamond

UTG raises to $4, fold, Hero raises to $12, fold, fold, UTG calls $8

FLOP ($27) QHeart 2Diamond 4Diamond

UTG checks, Hero ?

So far this guy called 3/4 3bets including 2/2 OOP. Generally this is one of the worst boards to cbet because the caller often has AQ, KQ, JJ, TT and isn't really going to fold. When would you start thinking about cbetting again vs a laggy guy like this and would it be one and done or some sort of multistreet plan?

Posted about 1 year ago

blah234

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First you should think about why did you 3 bet him with A8o before we can come up with a postflop plan.

Posted about 1 year ago

Swaytje

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Agree with blah, dont think 3betting A8o is a good idea versus someone who likes to call alot vs 3bets.
Go for value hands instead.

Posted about 1 year ago

zachd2323

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The only reasons I could see to 3bet this hand would be that he either folds to 3bets too often or calls and folds to cbets far too often. We already know he doesn't like folding to 3bets, so without good postflop reads, this seems like a bad idea to 3bet this hand.

Posted about 1 year ago

wrap_it

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Well, obviously the more he calls 3bets OOP the more I'd just widen my 3bet value range from the top. But still, his sample is rather small (he could just have picked up 3 hands in a row and come up with this stats) so I actually think A8o is one of the better hands to 3bet in this spot because it has decent equity if he really likes to defend a lot. That said, I wouldn't 3bet bluff very wide here but if I do, I prefer highcard hands (if I don't go for pure value)

Posted about 1 year ago

lawnmoe

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A8o as 3 bet for value seems a bit too optimistic to me against an UTG open.

you say he seems splashy and will call 3 bets with a super wide range... by that logic his range should be weak on any flop and you should cbet at least once.

I'd prefer folding pre flop though especially without a read that villain is playing fit or fold in 3 bet pots.

Posted about 1 year ago

SOEK

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Fold preflop is EV and will be the best play here.

If we are talking about postflop.
His range is probably wider than Qx. I expect one call from middle pair, so two way bet will kill the rest of his range.

Posted about 1 year ago




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