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zachd2323

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As for Qx (fwiw), I think his preflop calling range is somewhat like Q8s+, Q9o+ because of the weak player



I think this range is probably a little optimistic. Not to say that it couldn't be an accurate range, but I've played with this villain a lot and don't think that he is that wide here imo.

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zachd2323

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is there such a thing as a hero check?



Haha yeah maybe a good spot for one.

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zachd2323

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As for Qx (fwiw), I think his preflop calling range is somewhat like Q8s+, Q9o+ because of the weak player



Also in regards to this, it doesn't really matter a whole lot what Qx he has in his range because he probably wouldn't expect me to value bet QJ or QT here, so he's most likely just mucking anything QJ or worse imo. Unless he just gives me no respect as a hand reader.

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Shippopotamus

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It seems bad to not shove imo. Reg would have to be pretty bad to check the turn with a set since that's his money card to get paid. From his POV, on that flop with 2 callers someone has to have a Q or a set, esp you since you overcalled and are competent (you should never have an over pair in your range). Base on that reasoning, I think his line makes more sense for Qx then set. I think he is scared of getting shoved on on the turn and wouldn't know what to do because your range here is Qx + sets. For that reason, I really don't think he has any hands in his range that beats you. Since your river betting range is pretty polarized as it is I don't see any reason to not just jam it in there and make him agonize over his decision. Villain can't make a big mistake if you don't put the chips in.

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Shippopotamus

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It seems bad to not shove imo. Reg would have to be pretty bad to check the turn with a set since that's his money card to get paid. From his POV, on that flop with 2 callers someone has to have a Q or a set, esp you since you overcalled and are competent (you should never have an over pair in your range). Base on that reasoning, I think his line makes more sense for Qx then set. I think he is scared of getting shoved on on the turn and wouldn't know what to do because your range here is Qx + sets. For that reason, I really don't think he has any hands in his range that beats you. Since your river betting range is pretty polarized as it is I don't see any reason to not just jam it in there and make him agonize over his decision. Villain can't make a big mistake if you don't put the chips in.

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nawhead

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It seems bad to not shove imo. Reg would have to be pretty bad to check the turn with a set since that's his money card to get paid. From his POV, on that flop with 2 callers someone has to have a Q or a set, esp you since you overcalled and are competent (you should never have an over pair in your range).


this may be true, but i think a check is higher EV if BB turned a boat. CO can bet if given initiative and BTN is likely to call or raise CO's bet. or CO checks, BTN bets, we call, and CO comes along also since nobody's raising. so i think checking gives the best chance of getting a bet from both players.

the alternative is we bet and most likely just get one caller or no caller since we look super strong.

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zachd2323

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What is your river range?



Something like QTs, QJs, KQ, AQ, 66, and 33. I also think it's pretty clear what my range looks like too. So if that's the case, I think that KQ should be a check back in this spot and AQ is where it gets close.

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