tommmmy24
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DireStr88
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If you do continue then I think calling the flop and representing the Ace is your only line, that said do you have any reads on his SB range i.e. does he have a SB calling range, and if he does have a SB calling range what hands has he showndown in 3bet and called pots and specifically how does he play Axs?
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marco
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i hate calling here with 99/TT/AQs, as that's exactly the diminishing value range people expect you to have.
Even deep, its prob. still a 4bet, but I'm not necessarily calling a shove. Is 4bet/folding here really that bad?
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tommmmy24
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4bet folding is kinda turning my hand into a bluff, but TT is too good for that. I feel my hand beats his 3betting range, however not by a whole lot. So I called
AK AQ AJ, maybe random Axs hand is a bit part of his range, but I feel he will cbet this flop with his air range aswell.....
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Tackleberry
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4bet folding is kinda turning my hand into a bluff, but TT is too good for that.
No, it isn´t. Either 4bet or fold pre, imho.
If BTN comes over the top (what he SHOULD have done in this case, almost regardless of his holding) - you´re toast. If BTN calls - you´re in a 3bet pot in sandwich position. And you can´t really call for sole set value because SB´s 3bet range is too wide and you´re not really deep. With 200+ bb it would be sth. different.
As played - if Villain is any competent, he should barrel you to the moon, because you almost never have a strong hand. 
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blah234
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No, it isn´t. Either 4bet or fold pre, imho.
If BTN comes over the top (what he SHOULD have done in this case, almost regardless of his holding) - you´re toast. If BTN calls - you´re in a 3bet pot in sandwich position. And you can´t really call for sole set value because SB´s 3bet range is too wide and you´re not really deep. With 200+ bb it would be sth. different.
As played - if Villain is any competent, he should barrel you to the moon, because you almost never have a strong hand. 
agree withe 4 bet or fold. You can do some math with ranges to see if you want to 4bet/call or 4bet/fold.
Don't agree with the part villain "is any competent, he should barrel you to the moon" on this board since AJs and AQ is a large part of our perceived range and we're not folding those ever.
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DireStr88
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Eh, I'm not too hot on 4bet/folding or 4bet/calling TT 200bb deep because you're probably not getting your 4bet flat called by the SB that often. I think it's just a spot where you want to over call with your nuttier hands some percentage of the time for balance (it's pretty awesome for inducing 4bets from BTN as well)
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Tackleberry
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[...] AJs and AQ is a large part of our perceived range and we're not folding those ever.
Huh? Do you mean our "perceived" calling-down-range, or do you actually suggest calling pre with AJs and then calling down three streets?!
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blah234
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