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Thanks for the review !!
Sorry that I did not mention that but the first hand in the HUD viewer was not for analysis but for notes taking. The turn check was a missclick as I was preparing the recording. It is interesting though because the shove was intentional for value due to the nature of the turn.
Great vid! Love the reasoning you give for shoving in the last hand, that's i spot i would probably just give up because i wouldn't analyse like you did. Brilliant call on the high pair with a heart.
Keep up great work ![]()
hmm i play on ongame too but havent seen euro tables, whats up with that?
Time Link to 00:12:31
Hi CrackMonkey, I thought this was a pretty educational hand with the KJ on 8c4c4h flop on table 1.
1. I completely agree that against a player thinking in ranges that we rep nothing. I like to raise these types of flops more against fish and "Live" thinking players because I believe in their mind they can think, "Oh, he could have A8 or 99, or slowplayed AA" because they themselves make these incorrect plays, would you agree with that?
2. If you were hero here with 56 of diamonds, or JT of clubs, would you raise the flop anyhow, or just float for the reason we rep nothing?
3. What do you think villains calling range should be to a flop raise here? How about a 3-bet range for value, or a bluff?
-Thanks.
hmm i play on ongame too but havent seen euro tables, whats up with that?
This is a french Ongame skin. We can only play between french for the moment.
This is a french Ongame skin. We can only play between french for the moment.
ah ok
If we had QJ (open ender) do you like betting 3 streets as a bluff here?
I probably wouldn't be 3 betting QJ against in these positions against this player preflop here very often, though after seeing him call preflop with 69s I might change my mind. If I did 3 bet QJ here, I would probably cbet the flop and give up on that turn card. The 7 is going to give him a lot of pair + draws and he's probably not going to fold any A here, so even though we do have the double gutter, I'm not sure we're getting him to fold enough to make the semi-bluff profitable. I'm definitely not jamming this river as a bluff
Thanks for the review !!
Sorry that I did not mention that but the first hand in the HUD viewer was not for analysis but for notes taking. The turn check was a missclick as I was preparing the recording. It is interesting though because the shove was intentional for value due to the nature of the turn.
Oops.
As played though, if you misclick check the turn, it's better to turn your hand into a bluff catcher than try to check/jam and get value from worse.
Great vid! Love the reasoning you give for shoving in the last hand, that's i spot i would probably just give up because i wouldn't analyse like you did. Brilliant call on the high pair with a heart.
Keep up great work
Thank you.
It's one of those spots where you have a really good idea of what villain's range is preflop, then later streets confirm that range while narrowing it down a bit more by allowing you to exclude some hands that villain probably wouldn't play the flop in the manner that he did.
What's really important is being able to come up with a solid read, then have the courage and conviction to go with it and jam your stack in. If you lose, figure out what went wrong, if anything, and learn from it. How many times have you nailed an opponent's hand almost exactly, but lost because you didn't follow through with a bluff, or missed out on some value by checking back a river?
Hi CrackMonkey, I thought this was a pretty educational hand with the KJ on 8c4c4h flop on table 1.
1. I completely agree that against a player thinking in ranges that we rep nothing. I like to raise these types of flops more against fish and "Live" thinking players because I believe in their mind they can think, "Oh, he could have A8 or 99, or slowplayed AA" because they themselves make these incorrect plays, would you agree with that?
Depends on the type of player I guess. Some players are way too fit or fold, and some can't lay down any pair. Some players may think the way you've described, but you're probably more likely to sell some sort of slow play by calling flop and raising a turn cbet, at least at the smaller stakes. I do definitely agree that weaker players will tend to project their own game onto you take a line that they take as well, despite the fact that your range might drastically differ from theirs.
2. If you were hero here with 56 of diamonds, or JT of clubs, would you raise the flop anyhow, or just float for the reason we rep nothing?
I would just fold 56 diamonds given the clubs and the fact that the board is already paired. JT clubs I would just call because I expect villain to check/fold the turn a fair number of times, and I can profitably raise a lot of turn barrels, especially on "good barreling cards".
3. What do you think villains calling range should be to a flop raise here? How about a 3-bet range for value, or a bluff?
I prefer 3 betting with most made hands as I expect villain to show up with a lot of draws, and some random 8x here if I get raised when I cbet this board. I would just call my 55-77 and 8x type hands, along with some AK, AQ that are still ahead of pure bluffs. This is all villain dependent though. How I play this against a player that is raising 20% of cbets is different than how I play against someone who raises 2%.
Great advice CrackMonkey, thank you for the time.
Great advice CrackMonkey, thank you for the time.
You're welcome.
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Dont you think AK is in his range? I know its hard for him to call the flop with AK but like you said maybe he can call and then see what we decides to do in the turn, specially given that he has position on us
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