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Apex Predator: Episode Five

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Apex Predator: Episode Five by blah234

Blah234 hits the tables as he reviews a 4-tabling video of his play at 100NL.

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  • 69 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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blah234

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seems like a pretty easy raise fold here in this spot... if you take this line. Given the reads on villian, Why do you say you probably have to call here when u raise and he jams? You said it yourself when he jams you are usally beat. I do not believe you are commited. He also has 2P and JQ in his range that you did not mention.. not to nit pick just saying. I sometimes will just call vs a villian that has a strong DB range, is that bad? I just feel theres alot of turns were not really happy to commit with. IE any Diamond Q, J 10,
guessing thats about 16 cards. Great vid so far and sorry if none of this makes sense its almost bed time lol. Awesome vid BTW!



Depends on what range you assign the villain for shoving. Without a read I'm going to assign him the range of KQ+ which includes all other made hands like 2 pair and straights, then NFD and combo draws like 87, 67, jx of diamonds. Vs that range I'm fairly sure I'm priced in to call or very close. Villain can always have a random head explosion hand in his range as well. Feel free to do the pokerstove dance and confirm for yourself, don't believe everything I say.

If you've watched the previous episodes of this series, I've said that I'm of the opinion that you should stick as much money into the pot as possible when villain is repping a strong range that you're ahead of instead of slow playing. No everyone agrees and this is my own interpretation.

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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You say you should not be rasising his donks much anymore because he had MP. Can i ASK why? Most players that are bad enough to DB Mps usually call with them. Sorry for so many? sir Im just curious Smile



Most coaching videos, especially the ones from micros recommend raising donk bets with air because donk bets are weak. Vs this player you should not because he's not donk/folding second pair.

Posted almost 2 years ago

runners23

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So why did you decide to 3B K10o vs a guy who is calling us with a depolarized range? Isnt that bad esp. with the somewhat awkard stack sizes? Also i sorta get confused in these spots when I check, would you call 3 streets if he 3bareled and all the draws miss? Also what is the btm of your range for Cbetting here? One more/? Do you still bet a ACE turn here? Thank you.

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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I agree but dont you think checking back can be better since most villians will bet when they have K themselves as well as most of there draws... pretty much leaves villian with air alot here checking has alot of merit imo not only can he hit a pair but when check twice he can assume we are giving up and he can stab with his 9 high Smile Do you think this maybe a better line assuming villian will bet most of his draws on the turn vs check calling them?



Calling is only better if you know that villain will bluff ALOT because you are giving him the chance to see free cards if he doesn't bluff. My default is to bet vs unknown then adjust if I think checking will be higher EV once I have an idea how he plays.

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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So why did you decide to 3B K10o vs a guy who is calling us with a depolarized range? Isnt that bad esp. with the somewhat awkard stack sizes? Also i sorta get confused in these spots when I check, would you call 3 streets if he 3bareled and all the draws miss? Also what is the btm of your range for Cbetting here? One more/? Do you still bet a ACE turn here? Thank you.



How did you come to the conclusion that this villain is calling with a depolarized range? It's impossible for him to have a range where KTo is crushed given how often he's calling a 3 bet in relation to his preflop open range. I will call 3 streets with K if i checked otherwise I will bet it myself. Bottom of my range for cbetting here is of course pure air. I will bet an A on the turn if I decided to bet the flop.

Posted almost 2 years ago

runners23

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Depends on what range you assign the villain for shoving. Without a read I'm going to assign him the range of KQ+ which includes all other made hands like 2 pair and straights, then NFD and combo draws like 87, 67, jx of diamonds. Vs that range I'm fairly sure I'm priced in to call or very close. Villain can always have a random head explosion hand in his range as well. Feel free to do the pokerstove dance and confirm for yourself, don't believe everything I say.

If you've watched the previous episodes of this series, I've said that I'm of the opinion that you should stick as much money into the pot as possible when villain is repping a strong range that you're ahead of instead of slow playing. No everyone agrees and this is my own interpretation.


How can we be so confident that were ahead of so much of his range here when there are a decent amount of combos he can have that easily have us beat. JQ,K10, 910,JQ,9s, all come to mind which are all in his range since we know his donks are strong. Not to mention combo draws which were close to flipping with. Maybe im wrong but I rarely will see a villain felt with KQ on this given board you can easily have AK JQ or K10.

Posted almost 2 years ago

runners23

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How did you come to the conclusion that this villain is calling with a depolarized range? It's impossible for him to have a range where KTo is crushed given how often he's calling a 3 bet in relation to his preflop open range. I will call 3 streets with K if i checked otherwise I will bet it myself. Bottom of my range for cbetting here is of course pure air. I will bet an A on the turn if I decided to bet the flop.


Sorry I assumed he was calling depolarized because you said in the vid he was calling a decent amount of 3bets but you didnt say whether it was depol or with a polarized range... sorry for making a incorrect assumption I just assumed he seemed half way decent with his stats.As for my other comment maybe I should have been more specific and stated what is the bottom of your CBetting value range here... clearly im good enough to know that air is at the bottom of your cbetting range Smile And how would you proceed with say 10s on this board vs this villian. BTW ty for answering all of my ?s so quickly this is awesome!

Posted almost 2 years ago

runners23

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Most coaching videos, especially the ones from micros recommend raising donk bets with air because donk bets are weak. Vs this player you should not because he's not donk/folding second pair.


Well clearly we know his donking range is for value you stated that in the video so why would we ever raise his donks with air? That obv seems spewy. We clearly just raise w/e range we think is ahead of his, I only asked this ? because in the vid you said we should not raise his DBets much anymore I wasnt sure where u were going with that as in your just gonna call with TPDK or what. I think 99 percent of players sorta of understand that if a villian shows us a strong hand when he is donking theres no reason to bluff him... not sure why u mentioned that in the post. Sorta feels as if your read on me is that im a very low level thinker lol... might be the case but not that low!

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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How can we be so confident that were ahead of so much of his range here when there are a decent amount of combos he can have that easily have us beat. JQ,K10, 910,JQ,9s, all come to mind which are all in his range since we know his donks are strong. Not to mention combo draws which were close to flipping with. Maybe im wrong but I rarely will see a villain felt with KQ on this given board you can easily have AK JQ or K10.



Assign him a range and do the poker stoving. In these spots you will never figure out the math exactly. I estimated that I have enough equity vs his range to stack off given the money already in the pot. The estimation comes from doing math off the tables. You don't have to believe everything I say which is why you should do your own calculations. No one is a super computer and can come up with exact range and equity before they time out on the poker table. Ability to estimate equity in spots like this comes from doing math away from the tables, and the key word is estimate.

The EV of the raise doesn't come from calling villain's shove same way that the EV of 4 betting preflop with AK doesn't come from calling a 5 bet. It comes mostly from villain's calling range and vs his shoving range I estimated that I can call given my equity.

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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Sorry I assumed he was calling depolarized because you said in the vid he was calling a decent amount of 3bets but you didnt say whether it was depol or with a polarized range... sorry for making a incorrect assumption I just assumed he seemed half way decent with his stats.As for my other comment maybe I should have been more specific and stated what is the bottom of your CBetting value range here... clearly im good enough to know that air is at the bottom of your cbetting range Smile And how would you proceed with say 10s on this board vs this villian. BTW ty for answering all of my ?s so quickly this is awesome!



Range for calling a 3 bet is never polarized or depolarized because people only call with the top x% of their range most of the times. The more someone calls the weaker their range will be because they're defending with a wider range. Again, like I said in a post before, vs unknown I will not isolate my ranges. My checking behind range on this flop are some total air, decent bluff catchers that can comfortabily call a bet from villain. My cbetting range would be fairly polarized to stuff that can't really call a bet say like AQ and value hands.

TT is a between hand and I will sometimes bet it and sometimes check.

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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Well clearly we know his donking range is for value you stated that in the video so why would we ever raise his donks with air? That obv seems spewy. We clearly just raise w/e range we think is ahead of his, I only asked this ? because in the vid you said we should not raise his DBets much anymore I wasnt sure where u were going with that as in your just gonna call with TPDK or what. I think 99 percent of players sorta of understand that if a villian shows us a strong hand when he is donking theres no reason to bluff him... not sure why u mentioned that in the post. Sorta feels as if your read on me is that im a very low level thinker lol... might be the case but not that low!




Not raising much means don't riase with air. Most people don't flop too many value hands. I'm 100% sure less than 99% of the people can come up with the proper adjustment for every situation even at high stakes, otherwise I wouldn't be winning as much. I'm sorry if I said something in the video that's too obvious for you but I'm sure some other people can benefit from it.

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runners23

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Assign him a range and do the poker stoving. In these spots you will never figure out the math exactly. I estimated that I have enough equity vs his range to stack off given the money already in the pot. The estimation comes from doing math off the tables. You don't have to believe everything I say which is why you should do your own calculations. No one is a super computer and can come up with exact range and equity before they time out on the poker table. Ability to estimate equity in spots like this comes from doing math away from the tables, and the key word is estimate.

The EV of the raise doesn't come from calling villain's shove same way that the EV of 4 betting preflop with AK doesn't come from calling a 5 bet. It comes mostly from villain's calling range and vs his shoving range I estimated that I can call given my equity.



I never said Im taking your word to the bank, theres not many guys that can say something once and I will just assume its 100% true. Im just trying to learn here and im pretty sure asking ?s is a good way to start. Sorry if Im bugging you but if I dont understand something someone is doing I normally ask.

Posted almost 2 years ago

blah234

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I never said Im taking your word to the bank, theres not many guys that can say something once and I will just assume its 100% true. Im just trying to learn here and im pretty sure asking ?s is a good way to start. Sorry if Im bugging you but if I dont understand something someone is doing I normally ask.



Of course asking questions is the way to understand things and it's good you don't believe people just because they got the coach tag under their name. My first post explained the range I assigned the villain and the way to figure out in these spots is to just use poker stove and some basic math. If you don't agree with the range I assigned the villain then assign him your own range find the best play for yourself.

I've said in the very first video in the series "There are no bad plays only bad assumptions" If you disagree with my assumption in any of the hands then you will naturally disagree with my play as well since the plays are chosen based on the assumptions. if you agree with the assumptions then you can prove the EV of the play with math for yourself. This is the way everyone should be watch every coaching videos.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Assign him a range and do the poker stoving. In these spots you will never figure out the math exactly. I estimated that I have enough equity vs his range to stack off given the money already in the pot. The estimation comes from doing math off the tables. You don't have to believe everything I say which is why you should do your own calculations. No one is a super computer and can come up with exact range and equity before they time out on the poker table. Ability to estimate equity in spots like this comes from doing math away from the tables, and the key word is estimate.

The EV of the raise doesn't come from calling villain's shove same way that the EV of 4 betting preflop with AK doesn't come from calling a 5 bet. It comes mostly from villain's calling range and vs his shoving range I estimated that I can call given my equity.



Just to make it clear, raise/calling with AK in this sptot would be very bad:

Simulated 400000 Holdem Hands (Monte Carlo)
Simulation by Slice - The ev++ Equity Calculator :: http://sliceeq.com/
Board :: kd9dts

Player Equity Win Hi Tie Hi Range

1 28.1 22.4 11.5 AsKc
2 71.9 66.1 11.5 99-TT, AKo, KQo, KTo, QJo, AKs, KQs, KTs-K9s, QJs, T9s, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, QdTd, JdTd, 8d7d, 7d6d

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blah234

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Just to make it clear, raise/calling with AK in this sptot would be very bad:

Simulated 400000 Holdem Hands (Monte Carlo)
Simulation by Slice - The ev++ Equity Calculator :: http://sliceeq.com/
Board :: kd9dts

Player Equity Win Hi Tie Hi Range

1 28.1 22.4 11.5 AsKc
2 71.9 66.1 11.5 99-TT, AKo, KQo, KTo, QJo, AKs, KQs, KTs-K9s, QJs, T9s, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, QdTd, JdTd, 8d7d, 7d6d



we need around 43% to make the call, my estimation is we have around 40%

Board: Kd 9d Ts
Dead:

equity
Hand 0: 34.489% { AsKc }
Hand 1: 65.511% { TT-99, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, KQs, KdJd, KTs-K9s, Kd8d, QJs, QdTd, Q9s, JTs, Jd9d, T9s, 9d8d, 8d7d, 7d6d, AKo, KQo, KTo, QJo }


Call is -EV given the range I assigned him. The call becomes +EV if you add in some random head explosion combos or pair + straight draw or KJo so I still think this spot is fairly close between call or fold. This just to show that even coaches can make -EV plays during the video and not many people can come with with the exatly math during the hands.

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