doc.lemon
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yeah he was just clicking buttons for sure this is just theory crafting and once you know how he clicks them you can click them a lot better than he does. And unknowns at these stakes always have bullshit in their range, it's not like we are paying $7.75 to get a read more like $1-$3 max
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TEHShev
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You iso on bu with KQs, chk AKxss, and then bet Ao on turn. Why? I don't see too many hands that will give you two streets of value and it seems very likely that villain doesn't have anything at this point. I think max-ev line would be chk back turn as well and hope he hits a pair on river against which you could vbet.
edit: timeline in wrong spot. Spot found @10:30
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blah234
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You iso on bu with KQs, chk AKxss, and then bet Ao on turn. Why? I don't see too many hands that will give you two streets of value and it seems very likely that villain doesn't have anything at this point. I think max-ev line would be chk back turn as well and hope he hits a pair on river against which you could vbet.
edit: timeline in wrong spot. Spot found @10:30
all Kx hands should pay off 2 streets once the turn A came, I would of bet river too if he called the turn. He can also have a draw which will call turn but not call river, such as GS, FD etc.
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TEHShev
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all Kx hands should pay off 2 streets once the turn A came, I would of bet river too if he called the turn. He can also have a draw which will call turn but not call river, such as GS, FD etc.
so a similar spot @59:30 on table #1 with AJo on A55r, 2s
The board doesn't rly change at all, what hands do you expect to get value from?
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blah234
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so a similar spot @59:30 on table #1 with AJo on A55r, 2s
The board doesn't rly change at all, what hands do you expect to get value from?
not much except a small pp. He wasn't going to bluff so might as well make him fold. This one could be higher EV to check and hope he spikes something on the river. Checking turn is better in this hand than the KQ one for sure.
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doc.lemon
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do you see people 3betting you more when you iso a lower amount as midstakes?
I know it's pretty backwards as they win less money and ranges are simmilar, but at NL50-100 you often see people 3betting and calling behind significantly more when you iso (or generally raise) to a small size.
If you know that they are doing that I guess you would just keep your isos big right?
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doc.lemon
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here delay cbet on XXX drawy K.
1) Do you barrel two here on rag rvrs a lot?
2) In villain's spot, do you bet at the King or a Queen after checking flop with air a lot (you sort of implied that you do by noting that he didn't and chuck check folded).
3) If you'd know that villain likes to lead there a decent amount when you check behind flop with pretty much everything in his range including midpairs, Kx, draws and a somewhat significant amount of air do you play back a lot on this card or a Queen, and if you do, do you prefer to peel one or raise on this particular board?
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doc.lemon
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What's your default line with
1) AJw/o heart
2) AJ with heart
3) naked Ah like A5hh
4) sets
on this board and why? I know you said no specific questions, but this spot comes up sooo often and villains are largely unkown, I usually take a bet fold approach with all of the above but maybe I am missing something, it feels just weird especially with sets where you got tons of equity to bf
EDIT: In the HH pulled on the 527sJs board 3way when you cb flop oop and it's still 3w on turn
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blah234
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What's your default line with
1) AJw/o heart
2) AJ with heart
3) naked Ah like A5hh
4) sets
on this board and why? I know you said no specific questions, but this spot comes up sooo often and villains are largely unkown, I usually take a bet fold approach with all of the above but maybe I am missing something, it feels just weird especially with sets where you got tons of equity to bf
EDIT: In the HH pulled on the 527sJs board 3way when you cb flop oop and it's still 3w on turn
bet the turn maybe except AJ with a heart. You should not think in terms of hands but ranges. If you take different line with different hands then all you do is isolate your range and make it super easy for villain to hand read you.
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blah234
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here delay cbet on XXX drawy K.
1) Do you barrel two here on rag rvrs a lot?
2) In villain's spot, do you bet at the King or a Queen after checking flop with air a lot (you sort of implied that you do by noting that he didn't and chuck check folded).
3) If you'd know that villain likes to lead there a decent amount when you check behind flop with pretty much everything in his range including midpairs, Kx, draws and a somewhat significant amount of air do you play back a lot on this card or a Queen, and if you do, do you prefer to peel one or raise on this particular board?
1 yes
2. He should have a bluffing range, I would start stabbing vs unknown as a default
3. If villain autobet when check to then I will have a air heavy cbet range and raise the turn with my entire value range.
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blah234
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Maybe I'm wrong, but you don't have to be >50% against his range to be able to valuebet, because it's related to your betsize, isn't it? For example, if you valuebet $6 into a $10 pot, you only have to win 6/(10+6)=37,5% of the time against his calling range.
No I suggest you watch WoT's math series. Your math is for villain bluff catching not as the player betting.
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blah234
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do you see people 3betting you more when you iso a lower amount as midstakes?
I know it's pretty backwards as they win less money and ranges are simmilar, but at NL50-100 you often see people 3betting and calling behind significantly more when you iso (or generally raise) to a small size.
If you know that they are doing that I guess you would just keep your isos big right?
People isolate raise same amount no matter how big or small you make it. If anyone can think of ranges then all you do is put more money into the pot for them to take down and not bet size. If people are not 3 betting you then you should raise big to isolate.
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moneytize
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Thanks a lot for this video series blah234! Seriously... this is one of the best series on DC imo. Just one request to make my OCD happy.... could you make your seat preference one specific seat on all the tables and can you add chips to the table so it isn't just a number. I got used to it by the time the video ended, but it took a good 15+ mins or so.
Thanks again for the awesome series and looking forward to more vids!
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