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I really think i disagree that a pretty nitty guy will call with pocket AA or KQ if we shove because i mean what are we shoving that he is beating and how much are we bluffing in his eyes...
its what I think too
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you said that c/r flop vs a passive guy w/AK here is better than c/c flop, donk turn. But a passive player is more likely to check back flop than to bet it. So is it better to just donk flop, bet turn and river instead of checking and hope that he bets?
he'll probably cbet any Ax that he would call 3 streets with if you donked, but c/r'ing allows you to get those 3 bets in by the turn, meaning you leave less room for a flush card to hit and kill your action and you can potentially get another bet in on the river. If he doesn't cbet good Ax, then donking is better.
just my opinion
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KQ and AA make up 15 combos. Q8/K8/A8/77/QQ/KK makes up 19 combos, so even if he calls with KQ/AA every time, the value is too thin. it's also not unreasonable that he'd have J8o/87o in his range from the button.
if he doesn't cbet A8 or K8, it's a bit closer, but even then if he's folding KQ/AA with any decent frequency it's still too thin.
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a river bluff shove would probably be profitable, but it's a lot closer than you make it seem IMO. there's 19 nutted combos and 20 thin value combos (AA/KQ/AQ) that will fold that he can potentially have (assuming we have QT). the bluff has to work 52% of the time, and he folds 51% if he folds all of his thin value hands. Take some nutted combos out because sometimes he checks back A8/K8 on the flop and the smaller river bet skews his range more toward the thin value part of his range, and the bluff becomes profitable, but still he only needs to be calling with AA or KQ like 1/3 of the time for the bluff to be -EV. And this is assuming he doesn't open 87o on the button.
I do understand the concept you are illustrating though, but this particular spot, and the fact that him being on the button adds a lot more 8x hands to his range than if he were in like MP or CO and we're on the BTN, is a lot closer.
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what do you expect him to fold once he checks the turn to you? any FD and any gutshot would bet or c/r the turn, so you're hoping for like AQ/AJ to fold? Do you think that the money we gain from folding out his 12% equity makes up for the money we lose when he calls with 98/87/A8/TT/88 hands?
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table 1 - KK:
Can you explain your thought on the fold ? I know that he c/c flop 4ways on a wet flop but since he didnt c/r flop, I think that he is not likely to have overpair, set, 2pair or combo draws. I can just see him having TT here or something like Txdd..
turn raise from fishy guy imo. . .
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another benefit of flatting with AJ is that the fish is likely to come along, and the presence of the fish will keep the squeezer honest with his cbets, so if he checks you can often still when the pot with a bet when you flop nothing, because you will be effectively cbetting the fish (you talked about this earlier when the preflop raiser checked 3way with the fish in the pot).
given this fact that you will play near perfectly vs the reg and the implied odds you have for being able to value bet the fish post flop, you can still probably call even vs a depolarized squeezing range.
agree/disagree/thoughts?
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