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mchu1026

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Villain is just 75/25 over 4 hands. No reads, but he's on a full stack.
BTN was regular who was stealing alot.

Absolute Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 384893
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BTN: $103.32
Hero (SB): $192.10
BB: $109.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with T Spade T Club
BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $9, 1 fold

Flop: ($23.00) 2 Diamond Q Diamond 4 Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $15.00, BB calls $15

Turn: ($53.00) 7 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($53.00) 4 Club (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $29.00

Barrel the turn? Or c/c? Or even c/f turn?

Bluff catch this river?

Posted over 3 years ago

jk3a

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usually check flop, calling for read is decent, but def could be a fold

Posted over 3 years ago

shaggy

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Peesocake

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I hate these spots: you have no idea who you're playing against, you don't even know if it's a fish yet. You have no idea if his calling range there is wide or if it's tight. You don't know how he plays draws.

It's a really tough spot. 3 bets to SD, and no idea where you're at.

When you bet the flop and get called, you still don't know what his range is: does it include the passively played FD's or is it mainly AQ,KQ,QJs,and JJ. His Q hands are quity numerous, and you should C/F the turn imo. Because if he doesn't raise the flop with FD's, he probably doesn't bet them on the turn either.
As he checks through and weirdbets the river, again, he's probably not betting a missed draw.
His bet does look like he's betting for some value, like a Qx hand that didn't bet the turn for some reason, or JJ. Lower PP would probably just checkbehind.
So it comes down to quite a guessing game. Also note that you have to be right 35% of the time. I'd rather fold.

Posted over 3 years ago

jubinator

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Right from the flop our hand is awkward without reads, so i like just flatting. Given the play up to river a blocker bet isnt going to work, so I guess c/f is best mmediate EV, c/c could be used for future EV though

Posted over 3 years ago

duffte

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dont 3bet unknowns with TT?

you dont know wether he will bluff the flop or not
i think betting is better than c/c like always

Posted over 3 years ago

NoWayFolding

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I snap this river. He is loose and bad. He had so many weak hands here that c/c river is profitable.

Posted over 3 years ago

TheBeardofZEUS

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Is this 4 max or 6 max? Quite different game flow from my experience

Posted over 3 years ago

shaggy

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Is this 4 max or 6 max? Quite different game flow from my experience



Good point.

Posted over 3 years ago

Mendez

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I snap this river. He is loose and bad. He had so many weak hands here that c/c river is profitable.



We don't know he's loose and bad- the stats are over a sample size of 4 hands. (OP, perhaps better just to say "villain is unknown" so as not to confuse people)

Posted over 3 years ago

slipp3ry333

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usually check flop



Really?

Surely we can get called by many worse pairs, wheel draws, flush draws, Ahi etc and we collect dead money when his hi-card hands have missed.

I'm normally betting this for value, is this a leak? What makes this a bad board to bet?

Posted over 3 years ago

mchu1026

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dont 3bet unknowns with TT?



Umm, I did 3B.

And to answer an earlier question, this is 6 max that got 3 handed.

Posted over 3 years ago




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