nemmad
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do you really think you can call the turn here with ATss for your implied odds of a flush? you have 8 outs, because a 2 is pbb no out. When you call turn you need to win 65 more on river, with 78 left. So you think he will almost always shove on a spade?
offcourse very small percentage of time you will get the A or T on river and he will check and you win. So its very close and Im not sure if its +EV?
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nemmad
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How do you think to make the call with A5cc +EV? you don't know anything about the preflop squeezer and he doesnt know offcourse anything about you. So he will pbb play fit or fold there with the fish in it? And our plan will be to make a small stab at pot when chkd to us? Like 12-37 does the trick right?
And why do you not want to call the squeeze if the SB was a reg? Because fishes call a lot 3bets also and the reg will play now fit or fold, so you can now stab cheap at the pot?
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Grindcore
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do you really think you can call the turn here with ATss for your implied odds of a flush? you have 8 outs, because a 2 is pbb no out. When you call turn you need to win 65 more on river, with 78 left. So you think he will almost always shove on a spade?
offcourse very small percentage of time you will get the A or T on river and he will check and you win. So its very close and Im not sure if its +EV?
Yeah turn was probably a fold, though on a brick calling is a lot better as KQ QTs etc are still in his bluffing range so I have better SD value.
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Grindcore
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How do you think to make the call with A5cc +EV? you don't know anything about the preflop squeezer and he doesnt know offcourse anything about you. So he will pbb play fit or fold there with the fish in it? And our plan will be to make a small stab at pot when chkd to us? Like 12-37 does the trick right?
And why do you not want to call the squeeze if the SB was a reg? Because fishes call a lot 3bets also and the reg will play now fit or fold, so you can now stab cheap at the pot?
I call here because I'm in position and there's still plenty of money left to play for. If I call there without looking at my cards I still have some postflop EV from when he checks bad cbetting boards etc, and on top of that I actually have A5s and I can make some hands. And the fish can come along if I call making villain likely play more straight forward postflop which heavily works in my favor + playing pots with the fish is good in general.
If SB was a reg he could be backraising and BB is also more likely to overcall hands like KJs now instead of valuesqueezing vs the fish. Also, if I call here, a fish can come along which is desirable, as opposed to when there's no fish.
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Mister_Mischief
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