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The Thin Red Grind: Episode Four

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The Thin Red Grind: Episode Four by Grindcore

Grindcore plays 100NL and focuses on "creative" plays which can give you an edge in the games and help avoid the "grind".

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 56 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Grindcore

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The kj hand top left if he checks what are you doing? and why



Your timestamps are 1 hour off for some reason.

Check back if the fish was still in the hand, otherwise shove. I don't think he expects a float when the fish is in the hand, so I don't think he's checking to trap, and he also won't put me on a bluff. I'm also slowplaying all premiums pre there to keep the fish in and there's a reasonable chance he assumes I'm doing that so I can easily represent a strong range by shoving.

Posted over 2 years ago

I3betyoutillyoudie

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Your timestamps are 1 hour off for some reason.

Check back if the fish was still in the hand, otherwise shove. I don't think he expects a float when the fish is in the hand, so I don't think he's checking to trap, and he also won't put me on a bluff. I'm also slowplaying all premiums pre there to keep the fish in and there's a reasonable chance he assumes I'm doing that so I can easily represent a strong range by shoving.



ah sorry about that and thanks.

Posted over 2 years ago

c0o0l

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Time Link to 00:12:52

You said you raise bigger because of the fish in the SB

Do you allways do that?

I often raise smaller preflop in a situation with a fish like this behind me to get him to call with more hands and play post flop.

Posted over 2 years ago

Grindcore

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You said you raise bigger because of the fish in the SB

Do you allways do that?

I often raise smaller preflop in a situation with a fish like this behind me to get him to call with more hands and play post flop.



That would work vs a reg. Fish are 1st level thinkers. They play their own cards, they're not responding to what you're doing. They'll call a larger raise with roughly the same range as a smaller raise.

You also miss a lot of value if you raise smaller because of the snowball effect of the potsize. Since postflop betsizes are sized based on the potsize, the more money that goes in pre, the larger the flop sizing will be, making the turn pot even larger (both the + from increased pre and the + from increased flop), which makes the river pot even larger (+ from increased pre and + from increased flop and + from increased turn). Lets say you raise 2.5x on BU and a BB fish calls. We bet x% of the pot on every street. Now at another table we play exactly the same hand, only we make it 3bb as only difference. We still bet the same x% on every street. On the 2.5x table the preflop money will make a pot of 5.5 big blinds. At the other table the pot will be 6.5bbs. Lets say the final pot on the first table is 100 bbs. The final pot on the 2nd table will be 100/5.5*6.5 = 118 bbs. So your 0.5 larger preflop raise earned you 9bbs extra profit (half of the 18 was your own money) without altering your postflop betsizes. Even if the fish folds some weak hands that he'd otherwise have called, this more than makes up for that.

Posted over 2 years ago

bachis

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Time Link to 00:31:03

Table 2, shouldnt we open this when we have a fish in BB?

Posted over 2 years ago

bachis

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Time Link to 00:46:15

Table 4, I dont really understand this play ff he has AK he now gets odds to call right? Isnt we supposed to try make our opponent make mistakes?

Posted over 2 years ago

Grindcore

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Table 2, shouldnt we open this when we have a fish in BB?



If he's a confirmed 90 vpip or something, sure, but just 7 hands isn't enough to justify opening a hand that bad from UTG. If the rest of the table would be all nits, then I'd open, but the button is i-momo, which is about the worst possible playertype for me to sit on the button. With him in position I should really tighten up in general. I'll probably open ATo and KJo though.

Posted over 2 years ago

HighOctane

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Time Link to 00:18:41

When he bombed the quad 8s, your bluff raise was so small that you will get looked up by everything it seems. Also what value hands are you check raising that you are not betting yourself after 2 barrel donking large?

Posted over 2 years ago

Grindcore

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When he bombed the quad 8s, your bluff raise was so small that you will get looked up by everything it seems. Also what value hands are you check raising that you are not betting yourself after 2 barrel donking large?



I address this at the end of the video.

Posted over 2 years ago

allstar130690

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Time Link to 00:08:20

What do you think about squeezing on the top right table with KQs to isolate the SB fish? Is KQs too weak of a hand to do this with?

Posted over 2 years ago

eraser

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Time Link to 00:23:57

What made you not bet small?
If his range is mainly draws, and we have the best hand most of the time, it seems like a good idea to induce-bet?

Posted over 2 years ago

Grindcore

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What made you not bet small?
If his range is mainly draws, and we have the best hand most of the time, it seems like a good idea to induce-bet?



Because he could be checkraising Ax or JT too. If I had a read that he takes the c/c c/c donk line for value then I'll bet.

Posted over 2 years ago

bachis

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Time Link to 00:46:15
Table 4, I dont really understand this play ff he has AK he now gets odds to call right? Isnt we supposed to try make our opponent make mistakes?



I think you missed this post, really interested in some explanation of the play

Posted over 2 years ago

Grindcore

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Table 4, I dont really understand this play ff he has AK he now gets odds to call right? Isnt we supposed to try make our opponent make mistakes?



No, I bet 4 into 16. To call that he needs 4/24 = ~17% equity. He has 12.5% chance of hitting the turn. I'll make a similar bet on the turn if it bricks, so he's not getting to see both streets for just one call, so the 25% equity that stove will give him doesn't apply.

Posted over 2 years ago

srooney3

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need more posts of epic j high calldowns in unl bbv imo

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