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100nl: overpair vs paired toppair on turn

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derover

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Dont have villains exact stats here, but assume he was a taggish kinda player, with a small gap between vpip and pfr.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 237416
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UTG: $100.00
MP: $100.00
CO: $100.00
Hero (BTN): $157.60
SB: $85.90
BB: $81.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with Q Heart Q Club
1 fold, MP raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) J Heart 8 Club 6 Diamond (2 players)
MP bets $6, Hero raises to $19, MP calls $13

Turn: ($47.50) J Club (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($47.50) A Diamond (2 players)
MP bets $25


What would you do on the turn? Default to check behind or bet it (if so, how much)? And on the river ?

what if the river would have been like a deuces of diamonds ?


edit: btw, i flatcall preflop because his fold to 3bet was 100% (and i had been 3betting him often and light), so i wanted to take a small risk to win more.

Posted almost 4 years ago

sj2010

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Turn check behind seems fine. I don't think it really matters whether the river is an A or a 2 here unless villain thinks you are bluff raising this flop often with A high, because he might be less inclined to bluff here with a draw. River depends on how wide you think he's opening in MP (79s,9To,57s,J8?)...but I would probably just fold here.

Posted almost 4 years ago

derover

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well, deuce on the river might make a difference if he's vbetting light with say A8s. Also missed draws might bluff the river since i checked the turn behind on a river deuce, but not on an ace.

What would you do on the turn vs a fish? (like say a 50/9). That would almost certainly make the turn a bet, right? Since he can call with all kinds of draws, 2nd pair, etc

Posted almost 4 years ago

xorbie

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Since the board is so dry there's nothing wrong with checking back and then betting the river if you don't think villain is sophisticated enough to go for a c/r in that sort of situation. Otherwise b/f the turn and check back the river if you don't think you can get two streets of value.

Posted almost 4 years ago

terryfan

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Since the board is so dry there's nothing wrong with checking back and then betting the river if you don't think villain is sophisticated enough to go for a c/r in that sort of situation. Otherwise b/f the turn and check back the river if you don't think you can get two streets of value.



this!

Posted almost 4 years ago

derover

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Thx for the replies.

result: i called, he showed 88 for a fullhouse.

Posted almost 4 years ago

lastcardcharlie

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Is pre-flop not like always a 3-bet here?

Posted almost 4 years ago

derover

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not when he isnt calling... Now i keep in hands like AJ, that might hit tptk.

Posted almost 4 years ago

ItsAnOmen

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edit: btw, i flatcall preflop because his fold to 3bet was 100% (and i had been 3betting him often and light), so i wanted to take a small risk to win more.



All the more reason to 3bet again, the more you 3bet the more chance of him spazzing out.

Posted almost 4 years ago




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