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On Game $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 210437
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CO: $132.85
BTN: $116.15
SB: $106.35
BB: $16.40
Hero (UTG): $163.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($11.00) 6 2 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.50, CO raises to $17, BB folds, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($45.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $18.00, Hero ?

villain: 202 hand, 47/9/33%agg(35/33/28), 3bet 5, Fold to c.bet 50, Raise c.bet 30., went to Sd 28%.

Flop? Turn Check?/Raise or Call

I fold flop. Either villain is way ahead of you or has a hand that has very good equity against you. Plus you will be oop the rest of the hand.

Fold the turn. Folding the flop is OK, but I think its fine to call and see what he does on the turn.

Even if we have 8 outs on the river, we need to get 4.5:1 on our money while we're only getting about 3:1.

Fold the turn. Folding the flop is OK, but I think its fine to call and see what he does on the turn.

Even if we have 8 outs on the river, we need to get 4.5:1 on our money while we're only getting about 3:1.

Calling the flop is better ip, but not so much oop. Especially since villain is aggro, and we expect him to fire a lot of turns. It kind of sucks having to call down with a marginal pair, hoping it's good at showdown.

Folding the flop seems fine since the BB shorty should make CO's range a lot stronger. Definitely not folding the turn though, I mean our hand is best some % of the time and we've got an open ender. It's kinda interesting what we should do when we hit on the river... I think I like donking 5 rivers since it's a really obvious 4 straight that he's probably gonna check back a lot but might crying call, and c/r ten rivers although I could see arguments for donking tens as well. I don't like a turn raise, are we bluffing? are we value raising?

I'm pretty much never folding the flop, and I'm also calling the turn. "Aggro fish" can play a lot of hands like this that we beat/have decent equity against.

As played I'm leaning toward a call on the turn, which will leave a bit more than a psb, on the river.

If we hit - a non spade - the river bet sizing gets interesting. Considering villain has an aggro image I think I would bet small to induce a shove. The other option is shoving...

Btw, I think the flop is a check/call. It keeps the pot under control and since he is aggro you can let him hang himself.

If we had a stronger hand, I would take a check/raise line, on the flop ..

I don't like a turn raise, are we bluffing? are we value raising?

definitely for vaule. I don't see the hand that I want to bluff out.

Flop bet/call:
I think there is so many vaule in the c.bet. Shorty guy can go broke with random cards, fish CO can pay off me with many hand.
A 30% c.bet raise range is wide: Draw, bluff, stupid "Where I am with top pair" information rasie, random pair that he turn into a bluf, monsters, etc. I hate the 3bet in the flop, because we force him to fold the bottom of his range. If he have draw, he have the opitions to shove it or call me, and the most of the fds are fd+1/2overs, or combodraws here, so our equity is not the best. My plan was at least 1 street C/C in turn/river, because he is capable to continue a bluff/semi bluff on the later streets...
Turn
...But the turn was perfect, for me, I have blockers aganist str8s, His equity with draws is bad aganist my hand now, and I have outs to str8. And he made that small bet. I felt weaknes, so I trought his range is weak sd hand or draw.(And of course there is monsters, played horrible) I am not sure in my thinking line, so I glad to hear, where is the problem.

Folding flop is the best play here.

We can call turn but IMO we are just wasting $9 by calling.

Folding flop is the best play here.

We can call turn but IMO we are just wasting $9 by calling.

What is his range? Why should I fold?

if u think his range is that rando/wide i block bet for thin value and if he wants to commit his stack hes probably ahead so u can bet fold. I think if u are going to play pots like this OOP u have to have a way to netralize his air that wants to just barrell off but like a 11 dollar blocking bet should put him in awkard spots and protect ur hand for thin value.

Alot of ppl will disagree bc its not standard but you have to adjust to ppl who are just tring to own u with out stacking off too light so it htink its a good play. Also u can balance with monsters and draws some times too. I play weird but get paid off a ton by doing stuff thats non standard.

Anyone saying fold the flop is insane. It's very cheap and villain can't have overpairs. Turn is so cheap, you have a redraw, also an easy call.

Anyone saying fold the flop is insane. It's very cheap and villain can't have overpairs. Turn is so cheap, you have a redraw, also an easy call.

Good points and agree with you.

Wasnt paying enough attention to the bet sizes.

i'm shocked at how many people are folding the flop versus this type of villain..he practically minraises and everyone wants to fold when it's likely we have the best hand? the turn should also be a call since his bet is so small and we still may be good.

to add : its very likely he's minraising flush draws, straight draws, and crap 1 pair hands etc etc..we're only really scared of sets or 67