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Okay so Villain is 20-14-2(AF) over 200hands. Flop cbet-55, turn cbet-100.

OOT-Did I make the correct play with the raise, and was my bet size approximately where it should be??
OOR-Do I jam this street after he checks to me?

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Hero (CO): $110.75
BTN: $171.05
SB: $100.50
BB: $108.40
UTG: $100.00
MP: $127.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A 8
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 8 3 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $11, Hero raises to $25, UTG calls $14

River: ($67.50) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ??

I dont think that jamming the river is a good idea because Villain openR from UTG his really strong and the draw get there. I dont think we are beating his range on the river and he wont put you on a FD once you raised him on the turn. I dont think that Villain will be able to fold a PP (TT+) if you shove.

I dont think that jamming the river is a good idea because Villain openR from UTG his really strong and the draw get there. I dont think we are beating his range on the river and he wont put you on a FD once you raised him on the turn. I dont think that Villain will be able to fold a PP (TT+) if you shove.

yes basically my thoughts as well, he showed up with something i didnt expect but vs his range I felt we we're beat most of the time and wasn't a good spot to turn our hand into a bluff.

why did you raise the turn?

I'm curious why you decided to raise the turn. I don't see any better hands folding, unless you also shove the river, and your hand has plenty enough equity to call. I'd just call turn and unimproved probably fold the river if he bets

why did you raise the turn?

+1

if he is bluffing we have the best hand.
if he is value betting he is probably not folding.
we have outs if he has a better hand.
it sucks horrible to get 3bet.

If we are calling the turn instead of raising or folding,
are we intending to bet any river unimproved if checked to?

If we are calling the turn instead of raising or folding,
are we intending to bet any river unimproved if checked to?

I would check behind most rivers unimproved I think.
He is raising UTG and 2 barreling such a board, not too many hands he could call us with that are worse.
Probably 78s and 98s, but he can still be easily check/calling 99+ on the river inducing a bluff from busted FDs, so I think it wouldn't be all too profitabe to be betting.

I would check behind most rivers unimproved I think.
He is raising UTG and 2 barreling such a board, not too many hands he could call us with that are worse.
Probably 78s and 98s, but he can still be easily check/calling 99+ on the river inducing a bluff from busted FDs, so I think it wouldn't be all too profitabe to be betting.

My question really is if the river would be a good bluffspot if checked to since he probably would valuebet all strong hands and c/c medium hands if he views us as bluffy and c/f everything but his strong range if he views us as tight/nitty.
How about overbetting?

I just don't see people c/folding an overpair on the river there.
Probably if the flush hits and we bet big, but even then they just talk themselves into a call too often.

Overbetting might be the only way to get him to fold an overpair, but even then people just don't like to fold when the FD busted.

I think it is a bad spot to bluff the river overall, if we would do it sometimes then either if the flush hits or with an overbet.

But Baluga would say getting people to fold overpairs is not the way we are making money

You don't think he would be betting QQ+ on a non club river?

You don't think he would be betting QQ+ on a non club river?

No.

No.

Why? In fear if being raised?

I wouldnt raise the turn for reasons already mentioned.

As played after being called on the turn is be checking back this river. I don't see worse calling.

Why? In fear if being raised?

Its hard to get called by worse as an UTG raiser.
I mean would you be happy calling 3 streets w 8x,99, TT or JJ? I wouldn't ^^

And by checking he might induce busted FDs to bet, that can't call a bet obv.

Not too much of a problem gettin raised, we have an easy fold every time