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Would like analysis on any pre flop play/post flop and if calling or folding was best option.

Villain is 44/16 aggression factor-1 WTSD-55, W$@SD 50 over 25 hands, so little information on him, but would like to start developing better plays vs unknowns.

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CO: $85.60
BTN: $86.80
SB: $185.95
Hero (BB): $111.65
UTG: $191.00
MP: $53.35

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A J
1 fold, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, MP calls $4, CO calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) A 5 K (3 players)
Hero bets $15.50, MP folds, CO raises to $44, Hero raises to $106.65 all in, CO calls $36.60 all in

Turn: ($176.70) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($176.70) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

If I havnt seen him raising flops before I think Im folding this.. any reasons for cb fullpot?

easy fold to the big reraise imo we are very slim ahead or dead a lot

When you raise out of the big blind and bet out multiway your hand is pretty face up. When you get raised, you aren't getting semibluffed by Qdx nearly enough to make a shove profitable. You don't need to pot this flop and there is some merit to not betting it at all. Fold the flop

Pre is fine.

Cbet is way too big - you accomplish the same thing with $7-8. As played (and without reads), I'd fold to that raise.

Just for a hypothetical....let's say we bet $7 on the flop and he raised to $21. Are you guys still folding, or are you calling and jamming a non-diamond turn? Or something else?

Pre is fine.

Cbet is way too big - you accomplish the same thing with $7-8. As played (and without reads), I'd fold to that raise.

Just for a hypothetical....let's say we bet $7 on the flop and he raised to $21. Are you guys still folding, or are you calling and jamming a non-diamond turn? Or something else?

probably still folding, not as easy but i think for the same reasons

yea bet-folding 11$ on the flop seems nice.

Even if you are ahead now, its not by much, and against his overall range, i think its -EV to bet-shove here. Esp once you pot the flop MW OOP

probably still folding, not as easy but i think for the same reasons

Let's do some math/stoving.... 25 hand sample is pretty much nothing, so let's just assume he is an unknown (but prob a little laggy and fishy based on the limp-call pre). Preflop range might be about 22-TT, any AT-A2, KT+, QT+, JT, any connected or 1-gap cards 86+ and 87+. (I left out QQ+ and AJ+ as his pf raising range), and this gives us about 31% limp-calling range - pretty standard for a likely fish.

Given his raise on the flop, his range might be narrowed to 55 (set), QT+ with Qd (nut flush draw), made flush (AT-A2, QJ-87, QT-86), 2 pair (A5o), and all his Ax hands. Against this range, we are a slight (57%) favorite.

However, take out a bunch of the Ax hands and our equity goes way down....so the question is would a fish raise the Ax like that here without a diamond in his hand? I guess my gut says no. I don't feel like stoving the rest but I'm guessing all our equity was against those hands, so....i agree that folding to the raise is best.

guess I cbet full pot to try and price out/protect. I guess 12 or so wouldve got the same job accomplished and saved me money

When you raise out of the big blind and bet out multiway your hand is pretty face up. When you get raised, you aren't getting semibluffed by Qdx nearly enough to make a shove profitable. You don't need to pot this flop and there is some merit to not betting it at all. Fold the flop

Thanks never really looked at it that way, and makes a whole lot of sense!!

Yeah as replied by rrumsey not nearly as easy as a fold but def still probably a fold. As stated earlier raising from the blinds and cbetting as played my hand was pretty face up. We wouldve disguised it better with the 1-2 pot cbet which I like a lot and will start working into my game in these type of situations

Yeah, and furthermore it is easier to eliminate a lot of Ax hands from his range just because we have a blocker to top pair. I dont feel he is ever stacking off here with a weaker ace may just try and see a SD, and sets, two pairs, made flushes and pairs and FD which we are flipping with are a bigger part of his range.

Over 25 hands just look at VP$IP and PFR, even call open or 3bet is not that important right now. Wtsd and W@sd don't mean anything with this sample size.

$5 is too small preflop. You have a tight range/strong hand and want value and to reduce the chances of two callers, and even one caller actually, and CO is loose-passive. If I was in position I'd raise to 5.5bb to 6bb here, but OOP you should make it bigger, either 6bb or 6.5bb, and I'm considering their stack sizes too.

The flop SPR is 5 with CO and 3 with MP. You are OOP against two opponents with a pretty good hand on a very wet board and CO is loose-passive, bet big for value. I'd probably bet 90% pot here, maybe 80% pot.

When you get raised you can fold. The board is very wet and you bet the pot out of position against two players, CO is loose-passive and in position, which makes him play more straight forward and semi-bluff less. Your hand is not a premium hand here so you can fold, plus the SPR is not too low.

You are not betting the pot on the flop to "price out" draws, you should WANT him to call with a draw, but with improper odds. Don't bet half pot, you want value, bet for value. Good luck, Yojimgari