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NL 100 6max: 99 preflop - wanted the best line


Prologion

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Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 769049
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BB: $101.70
UTG: $201.90
MP: $32.80
Hero (CO): $109.00
BTN: $109.00
SB: $53.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 9 Diamond 9 Spade
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $10.50, 2 folds, [color=red]Hero ?


Villain: 18/15/3,8/24 - 7,1k hands

3bet Bu: 10%
Fold to 4bet: 67%

History: One ornit before I opened in eraly session from SB, he 3betted me, I have bluff4betted and he folded.

Now he 3bets me again.

Ok, in the vaccum here, a shove is +ev, when you throw in his numbers and a few rangeassumptions...

In which direction does the history affect this spot?

@4Bet/Call:
Here I have one problem:
When you look at his foldto4betstat, you know that he is not capable of light 5betjamming.

Vs. an usual standardbrokerange (JJ+,AKs/o), I cannot 4bet/C AI when I make it to 25-26$ as usual.

So do you prefer just jamming when you decide to continue here?

Posted over 1 year ago

NoWayFolding

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Jamming or 4bet/calling is cool.

The more you want to 4bet bluff though the better it is to 4bet smaller.

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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Jamming or 4bet/calling is cool.

The more you want to 4bet bluff though the better it is to 4bet smaller.



@4bet/C:

Yeah I know -> But: rgards to his stats I do not expect him to be capable of active defending vs. Bluff4bets by light 5betjamming.
When he does not do this, then I cannot 4bet/Oddscall.

Thtat is my prob here.

When his Fold to 4bet_stat would be for example 54% (should be capable of 5betjamming lighter), easy 4bet/Call.

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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nobody on opinion on this common problematic?

Posted over 1 year ago

z324739

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StnBuddha70

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Your recent history would make me lean towards 4 bet calling it off, so let's look at some maths.

- you 4 bet to 25, risking 22 to win 15, so you need him to fold 59.4%, and he folds to 4 bets 67% - maybe more in btn v co - When he 5 bet/jams the other 40% with a narrow range of JJ+, AKo - which is about 3% of all hands - that is like saying his jamming range of 3% is 40% of what ? .03/.40 = .075 So if his jamming range is that narrow and he is 3 betting from the btn 10% he has too much air in his range so he is unbalanced

- this would be the 2nd 4 bet from you so he might think you are full of it or that you have lots of Ax, Kx in your 4 bet range allowing him to shove small PPs.

- If you 4 bet/call it off you are risking ( 4 bet $25) you are risking $84 to win $109 + $25 + $1.5 so you need to be good about 39% of the time which is about what you have against JJ+, AK. But, if he jams small PPs you have him crushed.

Anyway, I think I favor 4 bet/ calling

Posted over 1 year ago

terp

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given positions, i don't expect his range to swell to include small pocket pairs that we crush - this is more common when players are OOP. IP these are more typically flatted. it seems as if he just likes to 3b bluff a lot...

what you probably want to do here is not worry so much about 99 but figure out which hands/how often you should 4b and with which you should call shoves at that point. you may even consider calling the 99 OOP if he's bluffing a ton. nits who have just enough 'game' in them to 3b light in position usually aren't batshit postflop and will cbet and check down on a lot of boards without giving too much thought to your hand.

the concern is we don't want to be constantly 4b bluffing him and getting everything for value in here. 99 is one of the worst holdings in terms of blocking his big hands and in its equity when jammed on - and this is far more important than the fact that we have a phil hellmuth top 10 hand v a light 3bettor Smile

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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@z324739: Thank youi for the linkWink - rly helpful^^

@StnBuddha70: Thank you also to you, for your feedback.
But consider that you have with 99 vs. JJ+, AKs/o only 33,3% - not 39%!
Yeah, and like terp already said, he do not 3bet IP usually small pockets.

@terp:
Thanks again for your valuable feedback.
The longer I think about it, the more I like here the option to take a flop here vs. a wide 3betrange and to play postflop.

Posted over 1 year ago




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