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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by BalugaWhale (Micro/Small Stakes)

Thats true, I guess. I am just a bit sceptic to use a 3b/4b/5b strategy on a level where most don't really know what they are doing.

you guys are thinking about this in a way thats kinda backwards


i dont like 3-bet 5-betting light cause they always have the goods!

buuut... dont you think they're 4-betting us light all the time???

either way they either have it or they dont, make your choice.

by the way, the vast majority of teh value from 3bet-5betting AJ is that they fold off some 28bb w/o variance. You do that a couple times you can get it in vs KK and have a big smile on your face

in short, id still keep 3-betting in general cause i expect people to call OOP, and if theyd on't, you either 3-bet 5-bet a lot or you call a lot, or if you're a true sicko, you do both

Andrew

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Why are we 3betting the 77 there on table 2, against the so far tight player, wouldnt it be much better to call there?

It was asked on the previous video before, where 77 was 3bet 200bb deep vs I believe an UTG raise, but there was never a response.

I am not as confident as you Baluga, when I am playing and I have to find out if somebody is light 4-betting or for value,
it's very easy to copy the language but it's way harder in the heat of the battle and I have been 4-betted 5 times already.

I am not good enough to remember that villian a has 4-betted me 5 times, and villian b zero times. For me, I have been 4-betted for the 6th time once villian b 4-bets me and "grrr.. !!!, I have such a sick image!!! lets go with AJ!!!"

Why are we 3betting the 77 there on table 2, against the so far tight player, wouldnt it be much better to call there?

It was asked on the previous video before, where 77 was 3bet 200bb deep vs I believe an UTG raise, but there was never a response.

Nice point because i always tought pocketpairs we call a raise set mind?

But 3 betting for value you do that when villain not go to fold your 3 bet otherwise it is better to call his raise, then is my quuestion how do you know that when plays without hud?

You know how he responds to 3bets without a hud by 3betting him a few times , or by paying attention and seeing how he responds to 3bets from other players. Also remember that a good player will act different if he's being 3bet IP vs OOP, so don't forget to pay attention to villain's position when he's getting 3bet and how he reacts in each situation.

that is clear ... but 3 betting is sometimes very complex

Hey! You guys are awesome. I was thinking a lot of about what a few of you said about players recognizing my three-bet frequency, so I put all my thoughts down in my DeucesCracked blog...

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/snaptress/20531-Computer-Got-Effed

Baluga:

You were in middle of a thought process about the equity discount of playing OOP.
Specifically, why we should not be calling very much out of the small blind despite perhaps be getting the 'right price' to do so.
i.e. the difference between hot and cold equity and realisable equity.
And you were continuing on your mantra of thin value and passive dead money creation exploitation with a 3-bet/c-bet strategy.

Whilst I have understood the concept throughout your many videos - I have a couple of questions.
Specifically in late position vs blinds OOP and IP.
Given Pokerstars now has 100-250bb min tables:
With anywhere from 250bb to 500bb effective
How should we adjust our thin value bet range?
How should we view the metric of 3-bet/c-bet dynamic vs regulars where now we are exposed to alot more floating/ thin bluffs given stack depth?
In another words how do we adjust so we do not begin to create too much of our own passive money?

On a different note:
I realise that some of this is within your e-book - just from what I have heard from friends who have bought it.....

But is it possible that you could do a theory only video - where you are less constrained in time - to be able to expand on your ideas and thought process - so viewers can get a more in-depth less hurried perspective on your concepts surrounding these types of spots.

Finally - I think alot of us - would like to hear more thoughts on the effect of stack depth in 200bb effective scenarios in general - to the architecture of alot of your strategic thinking outlined across all your series.

Thanks in advance.

bump for baluga....

Baluga:

You were in middle of a thought process about the equity discount of playing OOP.
Specifically, why we should not be calling very much out of the small blind despite perhaps be getting the 'right price' to do so.
i.e. the difference between hot and cold equity and realisable equity.
And you were continuing on your mantra of thin value and passive dead money creation exploitation with a 3-bet/c-bet strategy.

Whilst I have understood the concept throughout your many videos - I have a couple of questions.
Specifically in late position vs blinds OOP and IP.
Given Pokerstars now has 100-250bb min tables:
With anywhere from 250bb to 500bb effective
How should we adjust our thin value bet range?
How should we view the metric of 3-bet/c-bet dynamic vs regulars where now we are exposed to alot more floating/ thin bluffs given stack depth?
In another words how do we adjust so we do not begin to create too much of our own passive money?

On a different note:
I realise that some of this is within your e-book - just from what I have heard from friends who have bought it.....

But is it possible that you could do a theory only video - where you are less constrained in time - to be able to expand on your ideas and thought process - so viewers can get a more in-depth less hurried perspective on your concepts surrounding these types of spots.

Finally - I think alot of us - would like to hear more thoughts on the effect of stack depth in 200bb effective scenarios in general - to the architecture of alot of your strategic thinking outlined across all your series.

Thanks in advance.

arghhhhh i wrote out a whole big thing, then typo'd writing "Andrew" at the bottom, and hit delete, and went back a page on accident, and lost it, wtfffffff.

cliffnotes:
1) depth is important but stops increasing significantly in value as you get deeper. this to be explained in a new chapter im working on for a book update.
2) in general you want to be more aggressive.
3) I expect the following mistakes to be made at the 250bb+ games:
3A) People will probably flat 3-bets OOP too much, and they probably won't play well enough postflop to make it profitable (they should probably induce value-ownage more than they should raise, yet they will probably raise too much).
3B) People will probably not adjust their 4-betting range, continuing to do Ax and Kx blocker type hands instead of adjusting to things like KQ or AJ.

about it for now

Andrew

Thanks Baluga.

I am also interested in hearing your thoughts here or in future videos of:
- the interplay between perceived ranges and thinness.
There are alot of FR guys I know who watch your videos and love your work.
And are interested in 3bet play vs overall tighter ranges. I realise that you have covered this sort of stuff in CT2 with Kai (i think) - but more stuff on it would greatly be appreciated particularly with 200+bb stack depth and OOP play....and turn/river board textures with that too much/too little equity balance you talked about this episode.
e.g. nutted draws facing raises or when to check/back - where if you start to shovel u get only nut reg ranges.

Hey great series, am really learning a lot from it. Quick question, anybody know what the session was with durrrr that is mentioned at the beginning? Is it the Aussie millions cash game v Patrick Antonius?

Hate to be negative but I think its a waste for BW to be doing a microstakes series, I think there are plenty of other coaches who could get the job done.

but i love his way to teaching very well

when i watch videosfrom him gave me more info then usually

Ya not sure why you'd complain about BW doing a microstakes series, he's one of if not the best DC coach when it comes to explaining his thought process. If you think that every coach who plays medium to high stakes can make a microstakes series and they'll all be exactly the same quality, you're kidding yourself.