brainfreeze0
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I remember years ago reading Super Systems before I had really even begun playing poker. Ive built up a pretty LAG style much like Kristy's cbetting many and barreling semi-bluffs to monsters. I could always move up through the micros fairly fast with this strategy except after a while I noticed where I was running hot at a table I'd start getting played back at. My problem was never depolarizing. I remember Brunson stating to change gears but it's hard to stop betting those LAG hands and semi bluffs that were killing the villains right before.
Depolarizing would definitely solve a lot of this assuming I'm understanding it right.
Awesome video and points from both BW and ND thanks!
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In the AK cold 4-bet hand in the bottom left hand corner at the time link above, why would we shove over villain's c-bet? That makes no sense to me.
I agree that we're not folding ever given the pot size, but when we shove the flop, we give villain a reason to fold hands we beat (i.e. TT-QQ), and snap us off always with hands that beat us (i.e. KK+) or chop with us (i.e. AK). Aren't we just manipulating his range in the worst possible way? I don't see how our raise is for value or for a bluff, unless we think we might get him to fold some chops.
However, if we just call instead, and we are ahead, it's very unlikely villain will outdraw us (he'll usually have 2 outs with TT-QQ or 3-6 outs with some Ax hand), and we can often get a call from a worse hand like QQ if we value bet a later street if he checks. Obviously our plan is that if he shoves the turn, we're calling, anyway.
Isn't calling the flop planning to call turn or value bet later ourselves more +EV than shipping the flop?
Edit: I just resumed the video, and yeah, a minute later he folds, and you're guessing he tanked with a hand like QQ and folded.. that's exactly what I was thinking about.. that doesn't seem so great.
Did we expect him to call with QQ when we jam? I expect him to fold that. We're not all that shallow here. In addition, our flop shoving range is going to be super nutted here.. it's not like we have random combo draws in our range after we call a cold 4-bet. I think we're overrepping our one-pair hand, which looks a lot more like 99 or KK than AK when we shove.
im very interested in hearing the answer to this from baluga but i didnt see a response.
Where are you buddy? 
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BalugaWhale
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