Por2ugeeguy
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Time Link to 01:00:46
Another question, you said with a hand like a K hi FD on the Turn, vs. bad passive players you are still inclined to check the turn at these stakes. Isn't this a polarized range?
But, vs. a regular at these stakes you would be more inclined to bet the FD on the turn, this being a depolarized range, is it because he's less likely to raise us off and also we save our bluffs or in this case our semi bluffs for better players since the BAAAAD ones never fold, am I right... I think I'm starting to get the depolarized concept, but when you say not to bet the Bad players on the turn with FD it kind of threw me off as I thought we were keeping our depolarized range. If its not depolarized, would you just say a "value bet range" on the turn vs the bad players and not even throw in polarized or depolarized. I hope I made sense.
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palacedefender
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why is it good to 3 bet 44 here.....
When do i 3 bet small pocket pairs?....Of course when both are super deep then its good...so when u hit u can get stacks in....
But i mean otherwise......like in this spot...Balugawhale suggested Kristi should 3 bet them.....So thats the question then....when do i know when to 3 bet small pairs?
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palacedefender
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At the end you say...at low and mid stakes we are going to Depolarize...What does that mean?
I only know that in terms of....Depolarized 3 betting is with like AA, KK and so on and polarized 3 betting is with Q10, J10 and so on....
Could you please explain what you mean ...in the context you used it.
Thank you
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RML604
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Polarizing is simply betting with both extreme ends of your range, where as depolarizing or merging is betting with your entire range.
Polarized range:
|||---------------||||
Merged (depolarized) range:
|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|
So if we're going to depolarize our range, we're going to bet with all parts of our range, not just our very best and very worst hands. The reason we do this is because people love to call at these limits, so we can make bets with 2nd pair type hands and still expect to be called by worse.
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BalugaWhale
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Polarizing is simply betting with both extreme ends of your range, where as depolarizing or merging is betting with your entire range.
Polarized range:
|||---------------||||
Merged (depolarized) range:
|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|
So if we're going to depolarize our range, we're going to bet with all parts of our range, not just our very best and very worst hands. The reason we do this is because people love to call at these limits, so we can make bets with 2nd pair type hands and still expect to be called by worse.
I dislike your way of putting that.
Polarize
Good Bad
!!!!--------------!!!!
Depolarize
Good Bad
!!!!!!!!!------------
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RML604
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Roundmidnight
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It was 1 very interesting hand, but was skiped.We raised with TT on the Button and get 3 bet by regular.The flop came like A84rainbow and kristy called c-bet with TT.then Andrew said that he didn't like that flop call and then forgot to explain why.He said that TT call preflop is good because regular likes to 3 bet a lot of siuted conectors,so we are getting ton of value because we crush his equity wise..so far so good, but if he's c-betting 100% of his air on this flop ,ins't it a call for value with pocket TT?
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DADDYSHOME
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Zitouni
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Time Link to 00:43:45
Hi Andrew,
You say that this spot (77 on J72r 3 handed in a 3bet pot - IP) is a good time to slowplay because:
- no need to build a big pot right now as it is already big
- we have no risk to be outdrawn on the turn.
I understand both reasons but I like to cbet anyway because
- I would cbet this dry board a lot as a bluff and betting still keeps my perceived range wide here.
- we are quite deep against the guy on our left
Don't you like this way?
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BalugaWhale
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Hi Andrew,
You say that this spot (77 on J72r 3 handed in a 3bet pot - IP) is a good time to slowplay because:
- no need to build a big pot right now as it is already big
- we have no risk to be outdrawn on the turn.
I understand both reasons but I like to cbet anyway because
- I would cbet this dry board a lot as a bluff and betting still keeps my perceived range wide here.
- we are quite deep against the guy on our left
Don't you like this way?
i think its close, but in retrospect I kind of like your thoughts here zitouni. if there wasn't a deep stacked guy, then i'd definitely check. but you're probably right, he's a little too deep for us to check.
however, if c-betting this board as a bluff is good (which it is imo), its probably not *great* to rely on c-betting for value as the best possible line!
Andrew
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XtremeUngar
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Love this series.... amazing stuff... should help me beat live 1/2 easily??? After Black Friday seems like only choice to build a roll....I wonder how 1/2 or 2/5 live would adjust from what we r learning in this vids? More tendency for limping/calling live... but less folding postflop I guess?
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