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200NL - KT on T62o vs raise calldown


VICOMA1983

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Villain: VPIP: 21 PFR: 16 WTS: 43 AF:1.6 fold to c-bets: 20.0% (5) Sample: 53 Hands - No Reads

BB is a 14/12 NIT

He cant rep much here, thats why I called him down, even without reads. Why in the world would he raise a set on that flop? JJ and AT, he cant really raise 4value (against me he can I guess^^). QQ+ he probably would 3bet pre. So his valueraising range is really narrow. I think even tho players are less likely to bluff you in multiway pots, he might not care to much about the nit sitting oop vs him anyways. calldown mode ok?

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 584580
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: $132.15
Hero (MP): $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $305.50
SB: $252.05
BB: $264.60

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with K Diamond T Spade
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, BTN calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22.00) 2 Heart 6 Diamond T Club (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.00, BTN raises to $30, BB folds, Hero calls $17

Turn: ($82.00) 7 Diamond (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $50.00, Hero calls $50

River: ($182.00) 3 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $113.00, Hero calls $113

Posted almost 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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I would cbet bigger firstly.

secondly, when he raises you so small do you think it's a bluff or for value? I mean it's barely over a minraise and it doesn't look like he wants fold equity. I agree that his value range is thin here, 22 66 maybe the one combo of TT, maybe AT and maybe slowplayed overpairs, but what does his bluffing frequency look like? the only bluffs I can find are suited connectors that he flatcalled with. so what combos of those can he have? 89s 79s 78s 45s 34s 53s. maybe a hand like 2 broadway overs, sometimes with a bdfd. more importantly though, when you call OOP what does your range look like to him? and is he going to continue bluffing you if he was in the first place? and after you call the turn???? do you think he's really thinking that you're going to fold what looks to be an overpair here?

bottom line is, I think flop peel is fine, turn peel is debatable but not unreasonable, and I'd probably fold the river unless he's batshit insane.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Donkeybait

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Without some sort of crazy dynamic your TP2K isn't worth 3 streets, esp. on a dry board. Your hand is pretty much face up by the river, allowing your opponent to play nearly perfectly against you.

Posted almost 2 years ago

VICOMA1983

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Villain: VPIP: 21 PFR: 16 WTS: 43 AF:1.6 fold to c-bets: 20.0% (5) Sample: 53 Hands - No Reads

BB is a 14/12 NIT

He cant rep much here, thats why I called him down, even without reads. Why in the world would he raise a set on that flop? JJ and AT, he cant really raise 4value (against me he can I guess^^). QQ+ he probably would 3bet pre. So his valueraising range is really narrow. I think even tho players are less likely to bluff you in multiway pots, he might not care to much about the nit sitting oop vs him anyways. calldown mode ok?

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 584580
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: $132.15
Hero (MP): $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $305.50
SB: $252.05
BB: $264.60

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with K Diamond T Spade
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, BTN calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22.00) 2 Heart 6 Diamond T Club (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.00, BTN raises to $30, BB folds, Hero calls $17

Turn: ($82.00) 7 Diamond (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $50.00, Hero calls $50

River: ($182.00) 3 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $113.00, Hero calls $113



Thanks very much for your reply. It makes a lot of sense! Couple of things s tho I see a lil differntly. First flopraise size. I think both bluffing and 4value this size IP is totally fine. He can easily get the money in in 3 streets and on his bluffs he spends less. Second in those spots once I call turn, I am never certain about if players could just think "what the f, I am gonna bomb a 3rd time with air, I am gonna get him off somehow." I am very unsure about that. But thats so read dependend, I probably should wait until I have that read.

Posted almost 2 years ago

ndn290

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i fold because,

1) he raises you're cbet 3way. Though this can still be a wide range, i dont expect him very often to continue bluffing 3 streets. People give up a good percentage on turn and/or river.

2) especially since you can definitely slowplay when he raises on this board. So he shouldnt expect you to fold a big hand, which make his bluffing freq go down.

3) The turn and rivercard complete some semibluffing hands he raises the flop with like 89 and 54. If he semibluffed flop with 78, he will ch turn because of showdownvalue.

4) you hand simply isnt that strong.

Posted almost 2 years ago

NoWayFolding

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GS got there, and your hand = pure bluff catcher.

Really hard to see what he is doing this with as a bluff.

I would probably fold turn given your read on him. Folding flop is good too sometimes.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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