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villain 27/24/180 hands
3b: 13
F3bet: 57 (this was his 1st 4bet)
pretty aggressive overall but hardly any reads on his postflop game

We had some history, though. At first I stacked him w/ KJs on a T82AQ board where I rivered the backdoor flush and he made top2, a couple of hands later I squeezed J8s vs him in MP, he called pre + on a Q high flop with AQ and we checked it down.
I was also running pretty aggro at this table so I was pretty happy to pick up AK in this spot but when he 4bets I think it's way too thin just stacking off pre without knowing anything about his 4betting game.
The flop is probably also a pretty easy c/f but I wondered how my 4bet/calling range should look like and how and with what hands we can attack this board?
I think it's pretty polarized because I'm probably flatting a lot of those KQ, KT, QJ, QT, Q9, JT, T9, 98, 97 type hands and I'm probably folding the suited trash to his 4bet.
Was pre therefore correct at all or do I have to sometimes 3bet hands mentioned above?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($201)
BB ($200)
UTG ($532)
UTG+1 ($169)
CO ($211)
Hero ($397)

Dealt to Hero A K

UTG raises to $6, fold, fold, Hero raises to $22, fold, fold, UTG raises to $46, Hero calls $24

FLOP ($95) 9 Q 9

UTG bets $46, Hero folds

UTG wins $92

Since I suck at deepstacked play as well I'd also appreciate some thoughts on this

I think your preflop line looks okay but I'm already struggling with putting villain on a range. His 4bet is kinda small so he might have KK+. I'm not really sure what he'd do with JJ, QQ, AK here, though, so this board shouldn't be too bad for your range.

I dont think your preflop 3betting range should be polarized here deep, cuz for example if you pick up like A7s you would 3bet cuz its a lil weak to call and when he almost min4bets you(he added 1bb over lol) you obv. call; the same applies for big suited broadways, connectors. I would 3bet hands you mentioned if theyre suited at very high frequency unless hes very likely to 4bet; if theyre offsiut i call em unless theyre too weak (T9o i fold/3bet everytime)

I dont think your preflop 3betting range should be polarized here deep, cuz for example if you pick up like A7s you would 3bet cuz its a lil weak to call

I disagree. I think Axs IP 200BBs deep is pretty much the nuts and the least thing I want to happen is that I get 4bet off my hand (I can probably still call but I feel like Axs plays better with more money behind than in a 4bet pot). Vs an UTG open it's also pretty likely that I get 4bet or only called by stronger hands because his range for opening is pretty strong to begin with.
At the same token you could think about turning some of the weaker broadways (KT, QT, QJ, JT) into bluffs but since this guy is opening 24% his UTG range probably isn't that tight so I'd still like to flat those hands.

I disagree.

Me too.

I disagree. I think Axs IP 200BBs deep is pretty much the nuts and the least thing I want to happen is that I get 4bet off my hand (I can probably still call but I feel like Axs plays better with more money behind than in a 4bet pot). Vs an UTG open it's also pretty likely that I get 4bet or only called by stronger hands because his range for opening is pretty strong to begin with.
At the same token you could think about turning some of the weaker broadways (KT, QT, QJ, JT) into bluffs but since this guy is opening 24% his UTG range probably isn't that tight so I'd still like to flat those hands.

Im gonna point at these facts:
1. Not that important - hes 27/24 and is pretty aggressive. His fold to 3bet is 57, its like called 9 out of 16 3bets, dont know the sample size.
2. I expect most guys when they get 3bet in this spot oop 200bb deep with hands like T9s+, 77-JJ(or even with smaller ones to set mine), other suited broadway, suited aces to call very often. Do you agree with that?
3. When you get 4bet and you 3bet with hand like KQs it sucks yeah, but its the same as if you 3bet a fish with AJ and he 4bets you, you was going for value but he had a good hand this time.
4. Obviously Axs plays worse in a 4bet pot and im not advocating that, but it plays perfectly in a 3bet pot with 200bb deep.
5. I didnt say it would be bad to call with broadway-type of hand, id be just more likely to 3bet more wide in this type of spot; i guess our assumptions about his most likely actions against our 3bet vary a lil