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100NL: c-ring a dry board


shark_fishin

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Reads
Villain was 29/23 over maybe 200(5max) hands. He seems to barrel off post-flop all the time.

Thoguhts
I had 3bet villain a few times allready this session but i think i still should have 3bet him as he had high fold to 3bet and i don't think im good enough to play this hand profitably OOP vs an aggro reg.

I guess Ahi with backdoor flush draw has better equity here but i decided to c-r this thinking it was the best equity hand id get in this spot.

On the turn, i figured he probably has some underpairs or maybe Ahi he will fold. I would have c/f turn if i didn't pick up gutter.

Hand
Just wondering if this is crazy or not thats all..

Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 548184
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $108.50
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $149.55
UTG: $101.50
CO: $471.35

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 7 Club 8 Club
2 folds, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 6 Club 6 Diamond K Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero raises to $15, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($36.50) 4 Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $21.00

Posted almost 2 years ago

Berbatron

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I don't like it because he shouldn't be folding anything if he's any good since you're not repping anything and with no history he doesn't know if you're capable of craising a k so even Ace high should call the turn here and i assume he had at least that when he called the flop.

Posted almost 2 years ago

shark_fishin

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I see.
To win on this type of board, am i just supposed to call down light, and not bluff at all then?

Posted almost 2 years ago

Berbatron

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I'm notsaying don't bluff but against good players you'll only fold out his absolute air on this board i think. Which means you can value c/r much lighter.If you had KQ/KJ i think this would be a perfect spot for a c/r.
Also i'd prefer to c/r with at least some equity on the flop i.e overcards. In this spot i think you're absolutely commited to 2 barrels and probably a third barrel on some cards because the first c/r isn't going to work often enough.

Posted almost 2 years ago

shark_fishin

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Thnx. Well i can't have 2overcards, thats why i chose double backdoor, but i think Ahi+backdoor is better so i half aggree.. did u mean overcards to low pairs, like QcJc or QdTd? if so, would you c/f a Q/J/T turn(when u hit a pair) and bluff 9/T/A or 9/J/A or do u think he will hit 2pair/not fold too often?

Posted almost 2 years ago

ThatDeviant

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If I'm bluffing here I'd rather c/c flop, c/r turn.

Posted almost 2 years ago

simpleasspie

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From balance perspective, since you have a pretty narrow value range here 6x and medium+ Kx you cant bluff raise very often, thats why you should choose hands which will have most equity when theyre called on the flop. For example if hes floating you with 88, you can only hit a runner straight, but if you have QJ youre in a lot better spot, its even the same hand - 3straight but with better equity. I dont think this play is -ev, but you should probably ch/r this kind of flops more rarely versus good thinking opponents.
I dont think he folds on a 4 turn, and picking up a gutshot adds only 8% of equity and i expect you to have nearly 0% of fold equity, additionaly because you bet a lil small on the turn, if you had a 6 wouldnt you want to bet like 28 here and bomb the river?

Posted almost 2 years ago

D3rJack

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I see.
To win on this type of board, am i just supposed to call down light, and not bluff at all then?



To win the pot on such a board I think a oop float (c/c flop bet River when turn went check-check) is a pretty good option. A call on this flop looks probably even stronger than a raise, because you are not really repping anything. With a c/c you can rep a good TP or maybe slow played trips even.
If villian bets the turn you can either give up or c/r. But I think there´s a good chance villian will give up bluffing here on the turn.

BUT more important is: you don´t have to win every pot!!! You´re totally missing the flop so it´s okay to just give up.

Posted almost 2 years ago

udownwithvpp

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I hate check raising these super dry boards where you can't rep anything. I think it's super exploitable if you're playing someone with a clue. If he barrels a lot postflop I'm folding 87s oop preflop. If he's really bad I'll call but I just fold on this flop.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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