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100NL: 3barrel bluff
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Reads
Villain was multitabling and buying in full. He was around 30/21 over 100 hands. I saw him flat call AQo in BB, when a loose CO opened and $64 short stacked fish called OTB, then flop checked through and he bet turn and river on: J9Jr J 7 vs the short stack which i thought was awful, but maybe fine pre-flop if he didn't know what to do if CO shoved i guess..
He also checked down 79s his pot 3way 3rd to act on K33dd K T, so i guess wasn't totally crazy.
Thoughts
I had the top bluffing hand, and felt obligated to fire 3 streets. I wondered if this was correct or just bad when it's likely he has an ace and i don't know if he will fold it for 3 half pot bets..
I mean, i bet half pot with my entire range on a flop this dry, and i shouldn't rly change my bet sizing on turn or river should i?
Hand
Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 580976
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BTN: $87.10
Hero (SB): $126.45
BB: $100.90
UTG: $102.20
CO: $152.65
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with K 
Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3
Flop: ($8.00) 2 J 
A 
(2 players)
Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4
Turn: ($16.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.00, BB calls $8
River: ($32.00) 9 
(2 players)
Hero bets $16.00
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What was your plan when betting the turn? Did you feel just "obligated" or did you have a reason for betting?
My reason was, if im never bluffing, then i cannot value bet very thin.
Plus im out of possition so i don't have the option to check behind.
I think betting the turn here is fine. He probably has some J´s in his range that you can make him fold plus you pick up a really nice draw. With betting the turn you make the pot bigger and can get more value if you hit. Although I would bet it bigger to put more pressure on your opponent. Betting half pot he maybe calls with a good J and every A.
On the River I don´t think betting is a good idea. The 9 doesn´t change anything at all, so if he was happy with his hand on the turn he probably still is. What do you think he will fold here to another half pot bet?? He will never fold an ace for sure.
So I think you should bet the turn bigger and give up on the river, because if he calls a bigger turn bet he probably is pretty strong.
I like turn, you pick up a FD so its std to fire on turn. I dont like a river barrel. The 9 doesnt change much and we dont have any reads that say he can fold an ace or that he calls turn barrels light.
About betsizing: I think my std on this flop is a little bigger than halfpot since the board isnt SUPER dry. But when I get a board like K83 and bets halfpot I dont feel I need to bet halfpot on turn as well. Cause his call means he gots something and I want value.
When he calls the flop, he has a weak marginal made hand here most of the time. We are sweet to bet the turn coz we have heaps of pot equity that is disguised when we hit and weget him to fold hands that are ahead of us at times which is meeeeean!
This river, if you bet, I think you gotta bet more like 26$ which will show more strength than a bet of 16$. I am happy to just check here though, BvB, they will call light.
I agree with others in that I would almost always bet the turn here, but would almost always give up on the river (especially on the 9o) as the majority of villians range is Ax which he is not folding (especially so given bet sizing).
As a standard I would bet flop and turn more too.
Yeah definitely bet the turn but bet 12 i think. As played i quite like betting the river since the samll bets mean he could very easily have peeled twice with a J.
I bet 12 on the turn and giveup on rivers where I miss because I think he has an ace a lot at this point and I think he's calling with an ace at least 80% of the time.
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