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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by jk3a (Micro/Small Stakes)

Hey JK3a
Great video i really enjoyed it. I have a question about the TT hand. You say that you really need to evaluate how thinly these fish can value bet. Can you explain this to me. Are you assuming that they really can't value bet and when they take lines such as this that most of their range contains bluffs? So if he had an A he most likely would ck/call the river? I guess i'm just confused what you mean by "how thinly can they value bet"

Thanks again for the video i really enjoyed it.

yea, most of them are terrible value bettors

yea, most of them are terrible value bettors

but in what way are they terrible value betters?

but in what way are they terrible value betters?

they check alot of hands they should bet therefore making their value:bluff frequency heavily weighted toward bluff

Time Link to 00:17:59

What if we had 88 here instead?
Would that make any difference, because we are not beating 88 and 99 anymore?

My answer would be that we should do the same thing if the guy is ch/raising here with some broadway hands and draws aswell, because you seem to be so aggressive, and those hands we don't beat anymore are not that big of a part of his range then.

but on the other hand I don't know if the typical microlimit "seminit"-TAG like this one (17/16 with 75 cbet%) will ch/r broadways here, because he will most likely be giving up with them when he checks, because of his high cbet percentage. I think the only thing he could ch/r here is some sort of 2 (only A2s comes to mind, or maybe 22) or 77 so i would actually fold the TT in this example against this opponent, because i don't think he actually cares about Co vs Btn dynamics and just cbets Broadways and draws when he wants to continue in the hand.

to clarify my post a little bit :
The first part is about the scenario you described and the second is describing what is going on in this example.

really great video btw.

Time Link to 00:19:07

a few seconds after this hand you say that if a tight guy ch/r 2 people on this board ...
no real question, just want to follow your thoughts better:
why is the board here a factor for your decisionmaking?
Because a lot of his calling range pf is pocketpairs -> this is lowcard flop -> many sets?
Or because there are no draws that he could have that ch/r here? -> If you don't think that he calls pf with 89 or 45 and that's the other thing - if he would even ch/r those and not ch/c, same thing with flush draws, except maybe something like a broadway Nutflushdraw, and even against that you don't look so good equity-wise.

But then again -> don't you think that a lot of guys donk flops like this that offer some draws into 2 people with their sets, because they want to protect their hand or do you think this board is not drawy enough for that?

What if we had 88 here instead?
Would that make any difference, because we are not beating 88 and 99 anymore?

My answer would be that we should do the same thing if the guy is ch/raising here with some broadway hands and draws aswell, because you seem to be so aggressive, and those hands we don't beat anymore are not that big of a part of his range then.

but on the other hand I don't know if the typical microlimit "seminit"-TAG like this one (17/16 with 75 cbet%) will ch/r broadways here, because he will most likely be giving up with them when he checks, because of his high cbet percentage. I think the only thing he could ch/r here is some sort of 2 (only A2s comes to mind, or maybe 22) or 77 so i would actually fold the TT in this example against this opponent, because i don't think he actually cares about Co vs Btn dynamics and just cbets Broadways and draws when he wants to continue in the hand.

to clarify my post a little bit :
The first part is about the scenario you described and the second is describing what is going on in this example.

really great video btw.

after 2 years of hindsight I'll say that getting all in with 88-TT vs a c/r is prob not great. I think it's likely best to call the c/r and fold to most big turn bets on most cards.

a few seconds after this hand you say that if a tight guy ch/r 2 people on this board ...
no real question, just want to follow your thoughts better:
why is the board here a factor for your decisionmaking?
Because a lot of his calling range pf is pocketpairs -> this is lowcard flop -> many sets?
Or because there are no draws that he could have that ch/r here? -> If you don't think that he calls pf with 89 or 45 and that's the other thing - if he would even ch/r those and not ch/c, same thing with flush draws, except maybe something like a broadway Nutflushdraw, and even against that you don't look so good equity-wise.

But then again -> don't you think that a lot of guys donk flops like this that offer some draws into 2 people with their sets, because they want to protect their hand or do you think this board is not drawy enough for that?

think the board makes it such that he can have all the sets. the flush draw present certainly gives him some hands that we might beat, but when a guy that tight c/r 2 players, 1 of whom is short, he mostly has the nuts

after 2 years of hindsight I'll say that getting all in with 88-TT vs a c/r is prob not great. I think it's likely best to call the c/r and fold to most big turn bets on most cards.

thanks very much for your replies on this old thread

Am I right to think that you would call here, because a raise / shove would just fold out his overcards and maybe some hands we beat while obviously keeping his stronger hands in and you would fold to the big turn bet, because most guys will not follow through with a second barrel there with air/draws after you bet and called the ch/r?

What do you think does he ch/r here at all? I just can't come up with a reasonable range for him.
My assumption would be some Broadways as well as FDs and maybe A2s and 77.

thanks very much for your replies on this old thread

Am I right to think that you would call here, because a raise / shove would just fold out his overcards and maybe some hands we beat while obviously keeping his stronger hands in and you would fold to the big turn bet, because most guys will not follow through with a second barrel there with air/draws after you bet and called the ch/r?

What do you think does he ch/r here at all? I just can't come up with a reasonable range for him.
My assumption would be some Broadways as well as FDs and maybe A2s and 77.

yes

occasional bluff and some really strong hands

About the hero call against the fish, i think generally fish don't value bet enough, but they merge their range.
With good hands they try to get to showndown and don't bet becausethey are afraid we have the nuts, and with weak hand with showndown value they bet because they don't know what else to do.
In the TT hands i don't think a fish will value bet an ace or even 2 pair but i think he can very well show up with a J. It's still an easy call though. imo

I think this is very true. A good example is when the guy c/r 99 on Q72tt at the end of the video. I would expect him to c/c a queen most the time.

Question to JK3A: I can't remember where in the video you did this(I'll look later), but you fold a hand like A3s UTG or MP. A table with many full-stacked mega-whales, I feel like A3s is a slam-dunk open.

Edit: You fold A2s at 13:38 in MP. You also fold A8o the previous hand in CO. Aren't these great hands to open vs fish?

I think this is very true. A good example is when the guy c/r 99 on Q72tt at the end of the video. I would expect him to c/c a queen most the time.

Question to JK3A: I can't remember where in the video you did this(I'll look later), but you fold a hand like A3s UTG or MP. A table with many full-stacked mega-whales, I feel like A3s is a slam-dunk open.

Edit: You fold A2s at 13:38 in MP. You also fold A8o the previous hand in CO. Aren't these great hands to open vs fish?

yea I would def open those hands today in the table conditions you describe