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milky159

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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1856564
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Hero (CO): $101.50
BTN: $47.03
SB: $158.77
BB: $261.91
UTG: $105.00
MP: $147.46

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with J Diamond J Spade
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 3 Club 9 Club 9 Heart (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6, BB folds

Turn: ($21.50) K Heart (2 players)
UTG bets $13, Hero calls $13

River: ($47.50) 7 Spade (2 players)
UTG bets $30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $47.50
UTG wins $45.36
(Rake: $2.14)

Posted 9 months ago

7GramRocks

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what do u put him on to take this line and sizing?

Posted 9 months ago

Noreaga

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I would 3B pre flop.
As played i`d fold the turn.

Posted 9 months ago

zachd2323

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lawnmoe

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if you call the turn you should consider a call on almost all river cards... apparently you have no reads or stats but there are probaly enough busted Ahigh flush draws or mid pair type hands to make it a profitable call

or fold the turn. Might be a mistake but it's a smaller one than calling and folding to a river bet on a blank.

Posted 9 months ago

1bigazzdog

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Our equity on the turn vs villians utg barreling range is not that good so i would be inclined to fold the turn as a standard readless.

Posted 9 months ago

milky159

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Sorry guys, dunno why I didn't write down the little info I have on him.

he seems like a tight reg (not played much 100nl on stars) 22/18 over 95 hands opening utg 14% has cbet and barrelled 100% (only out of 3 occasions).
I flat JJ pre here because I don't think there is too much value from 3 betting it vs utg and more so becuase the BB is a fish.
I don't think he will bluff the flop giving the fish in the pot but there are still lots of hands I beat.
I figure he is still betting 44+ OTT and maybe flush draws and all turned Kx. I call here figuring he won't fire the river with 44-QQ and I'm not sure about miss draws.

Posted 9 months ago

zachd2323

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Sorry guys, dunno why I didn't write down the little info I have on him.

he seems like a tight reg (not played much 100nl on stars) 22/18 over 95 hands opening utg 14% has cbet and barrelled 100% (only out of 3 occasions).
I flat JJ pre here because I don't think there is too much value from 3 betting it vs utg and more so becuase the BB is a fish.
I don't think he will bluff the flop giving the fish in the pot but there are still lots of hands I beat.
I figure he is still betting 44+ OTT and maybe flush draws and all turned Kx. I call here figuring he won't fire the river with 44-QQ and I'm not sure about miss draws.



I don't really agree that he won't cbet bluff here with the fish in the pot. He's just going to have air and fold a lot anyways. If he's decent he should realize that your range is mostly medium PP's so he should be 3 barreling often on that turn card and also definitely value betting QQ+ and maybe even JJ. That said, his opening range is tight and we don't have very many reads so I don't mind just folding turn as others have said.

Posted 9 months ago

tomlewis88

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I think when you call the flop bet your range looks a lot like decent pocket pairs to villain if he is paying attention. You aren't going to be floating a lot in this spot with complete air/ace high knowing that there is one more player to act behind you. We know he is going to be firing this turn a ton of the time, so I think a call is fine. OTR I doubt he is bluffing enough to have a profitable call in this spot.

Posted 7 months ago

Majkel

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I believe that raise on the river is more profitable than a call given his tight open range however I am not sure.

Posted 7 months ago

rrumsey

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i think folding a none club river on such a neutral card is showing a mistake either on the turn or the river one of the 2 unless if you just were 100% sure he was 2 barreling then giving up a ton. Even if we were expecting this, first off it's basically a great river for him to fire the 3rb bullet you likely have a lot of draws that missed, and secondly why would he not be value betting thinly here?

Posted 7 months ago

pettus

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i think folding a none club river on such a neutral card is showing a mistake either on the turn or the river one of the 2 unless if you just were 100% sure he was 2 barreling then giving up a ton. Even if we were expecting this, first off it's basically a great river for him to fire the 3rb bullet you likely have a lot of draws that missed, and secondly why would he not be value betting thinly here?


Completely agree with this. Villain can have a decent amount of busted draws(including backdoor) that folding the river on the 7s after calling turn just seems bad.

Posted 7 months ago

B-rye88

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Pity you have two jacks, blocks his QJ/JT.

*shrug* pretty clear bluff catcher, you don't block clubs, you do block some straight draws.

If you have any reason to believe that villain isn't balanced in this spot then go ahead and fold, but otherwise yeah I think it's probably a call with a range of 98, T9, 77+ without a club, and KcXc.

Posted 7 months ago

luckyciaran

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why not figure it out an turn? if you think he barrels allot and we all know a king on the turn is a great card to barrel. I raise this turn to challenge him. If I play with this guy allot i need to do it for value as well. thoughts?

Posted 7 months ago

fizzo

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I mostly agree with others, I think it's a call/call or fold turn. Definitely leaning more towards call/call. I'd assume villain cbets the flop with all of his hearts and all of his clubs, depending on how wide his opening range is, that can be quite a lot of combos, also because of the board runout, with the K on the turn and everything, and your perceived range containing quite a few missed draws and pocket pairs that might fold I'd say he's firing 3barrels with a lot of his air here and we don't need to be good all that often.

That said, that is a pretty bad river for him to bluff on, and the sizing seems kinda value-ish, but I still think we have to call blank rivers, even though if I was in villains shoes, I'd be more likely to bluff heart rivers or even clubs, rather than a blank.

Someone mentioned that jamming might be more +EV than calling the river, I wouldn't really agree with that, I think it's way too easy for him to click call with every single hand that he's valubetting there, because we do rep a lot of missed draws, don't have very many 9x in our range, and may or may not raise 9x on the turn and may or may not raise the river with them, 33 and 99 is only 4 combos.


why not figure it out an turn? if you think he barrels allot and we all know a king on the turn is a great card to barrel. I raise this turn to challenge him. If I play with this guy allot i need to do it for value as well. thoughts?



Take this to your local 1/2 live game. You don't challenge people, you try to take the most +EV lines while trying to stay balanced, in spots where you need to. Besides that, JJ is like the worst hand to raise with there, because it has little equity vs his calling/3betting range and is quite simply good enough to call with.

Posted 7 months ago




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