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Dealing with small 3 bets from short stacks

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milky159

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This hand is just an example of the kind of spot im taking about.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1856068
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BB: $101.50
UTG: $23.61
Hero (MP): $110.53
CO: $44.01
BTN: $152.12
SB: $119.54

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 8 Heart 8 Spade
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO raises to $6

What is your general game plan for dealing with small 3 bets from 20-40bb stacks in and out of position with no reads.

Posted 9 months ago

improva

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Min-raise pre flop if there is a SS left to act.

If you have never seen the SS before he is most likely not a pro-SS.

If he is a pro SS you should have a lot of hands => a reasonable idea about how wide he is 3betting => trivial math problem.

Posted 9 months ago

Allermand_DK

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Where is BTN and blinds in this hand?

Posted 9 months ago

StackHunter

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88 is a not a hand you have problems with against shorts. Also, not every SS is equal. Vs some of them shoving 55 here is super standard, vs others it would be a fold.

Like improva has said, this is a math problem, preflop is the easiest street to play, hardly any variables, everything is nice and easy to calculate. Maybe not so easy, but no where near as complex to postflop.

As an adjustment, I'd open 2.5 bb from MP/CO if there is an aggro shorty behind me.

Posted 9 months ago

milky159

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I meant vs unknowns here in these spots ie should I be folding here as standard?

Posted 9 months ago

Allermand_DK

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88 is a not a hand you have problems with against shorts. Also, not every SS is equal. Vs some of them shoving 55 here is super standard, vs others it would be a fold.

Like improva has said, this is a math problem, preflop is the easiest street to play, hardly any variables, everything is nice and easy to calculate. Maybe not so easy, but no where near as complex to postflop.

As an adjustment, I'd open 2.5 bb from MP/CO if there is an aggro shorty behind me.



This, and like Improva and SH says it's a math problem, depending on the actual SS-player and what he will do preflop in most cases, combined with postflop sometimes.

Posted 9 months ago




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