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IAGTTAYM

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Villain is 29/26 over 65 hands, hadn't noticed anything up to this point that was of value. He was playing a bunch of deep ante tables, so I was guessing that he at least was semi competent. UTG limper is 50/7 over 40ish hands and weak-passive postflop.

Bet/fold turn? Fold/call river as played?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em $0.20 Ante - 6 players

BTN: $242.75
SB: $561.37
BB: $248.51
UTG: $268.01
MP: $230.49
Hero (CO): $247.70

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero is CO with K Spade 9 Club
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($16.70) 9 Heart 4 Diamond T Diamond (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($16.70) T Heart (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $35.97, UTG folds, Hero calls $23.97

River: ($88.64) 5 Heart (2 players)
BB bets $35.50

Final Pot: $88.64

Posted 9 months ago

improva

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Did you consider raising the river ?

Posted 9 months ago

IAGTTAYM

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Did you consider raising the river ?

Well, no, not really. I don't think I represent hearts that well, since I probably check AhXh on the turn a decent %, and would bet some of my other heart combos on the flop/or check turn again. And further on, since I checked the flop, my range is somewhat capped in terms of boats, which I'd be a little worried about, against someone that seems competent.

Posted 9 months ago

improva

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Well, no, not really. I don't think I represent hearts that well, since I probably check AhXh on the turn a decent %, and would bet some of my other heart combos on the flop/or check turn again. And further on, since I checked the flop, my range is somewhat capped in terms of boats, which I'd be a little worried about, against someone that seems competent.



You should be XB most hands with back door equity (because you can expect to face a XR very often) - and you certainly should bet AhXh OTT. Ax has virtually no SD value.

Posted 9 months ago

DerBrain

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His c/r on the turn doesnt make that much sense if he´s got a value hand. He wants the fish to call with all of his weak holdings and he really cant expect you to suddenly bet this turn if you checked back the flop. Thats why I like your turn call, he probably thinks that your range is capped and that you might actually take a step at the pot with a decent amount of air/weak holdings.
The river is somewhat difficult. If he c/r the turn just to get you off of some very marginal holdings but you decide to call, he will put you on some decent bluffcatchers and turned flush draws which should make him less inclined to bluff this river.
I dont know if turning our hand into a bluff is that great of an idea. Is he really folding that many better hands? We are either ahead vs air or his range is something like weirdly played boat/flush/Tx and I dont see him folding much to a shove.

Posted 9 months ago

SpewKid

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Wouldn't villain lead the turn with trips most of the time? He can't really expect you to bet very often and UTG is passive. I assume his range is pretty polarized, so I wouldn't raise on the river. I think it's pretty close between calling and folding. I would probably fold because flushes are in your range.

Posted 9 months ago

improva

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Wouldn't villain lead the turn with trips most of the time? He can't really expect you to bet very often and UTG is passive. I assume his range is pretty polarized, so I wouldn't raise on the river. I think it's pretty close between calling and folding. I would probably fold because flushes are in your range.



This is a board texture where we are expected to fold a lot on the turn when facing a bet.

Posted 9 months ago

Miserry

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StackHunter

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Flop
I'd bet as well - value and protection.

Turn
BB might have:
- T9s (1)
- TT (1)
- 99 (1)
- 44 (3)
__________
6 combos

Random Tx shouldn't be ruled out, so 8-9 value combos in total imo. I expect FDs to lead OTT instead of taking a x/r line on a paired board.

River
With that assumptions we are not afraid of him having a heart flush.

Pot Odds: 2.5:1
So he has to have 3.5-4 bluff combos to make the call profitable.

Did you consider raising the river ?



His value range is like FHs only, so raising is absolutely suicidal. He shouldn't fold 44 even to a 200 bb overbet, since we don't rep a FH ourselves.

I'd just call and take a note.

Posted 9 months ago

7GramRocks

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His value range is like FHs only, so raising is absolutely suicidal. He shouldn't fold 44 even to a 200 bb overbet, since we don't rep a FH ourselves.



i want to rule out FHs due to his river bet sizing. I rarely see turn raise + river underbet = FH.

Posted 9 months ago




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