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Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $201.97
MP: $229.98
CO: $200.00
BTN: $95.16
SB: $162.39

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 A
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, Hero raises to $25, CO calls $19, 1 fold

Flop: ($56.00) 2 Q 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $27.27, CO calls $27.27

Turn: ($110.54) A (2 players)
[color=red]Hero ?

SB was a big fish.

Co: 27/20
oR Co: 25%
fold to sqz: 70%
fold to cbets in rr pot: 43%/35%

I guess he can flat preflop with the fish behind some KK+_combos, AQ, ATs-AJs, KJs-KQs and maybe hands like 99/TT and QJs and JTs - maybe even some kQo and AJo cause the fish was with 50/10 a bigger fish...

My standard in sqzed pots is mostly to bet bout 60% OTF and slight overjam turns with my whole 2ndbarellrange (when I decide to 2ndbarell of course).
So should have cbetted slight more.

Do we jam this turn?

Hmm. I think a jam might just fold out everything rather than get value. Might be a good spot to check, then bet river if turn checks through

Imagine you have KJo, maybe even with a spade. An A comes on the turn. What is your move?
Once you answer this question, you should know what to do with A8.

When you have value, try to rep a bluff and vice versa.

Imagine you have KJo, maybe even with a spade. An A comes on the turn. What is your move?
Once you answer this question, you should know what to do with A8.

When you have value, try to rep a bluff and vice versa.

I know this and that was my thinking. still it should be clear that I am pretty behind vs. his callingrange.
still I jammed cause there`s also some protectionvalue and hence I do not need like >= 50% vs. villain`s callingrange to make a jam here easily +ev.
Just wanna doublecheck if that is the best line here.

I know this and that was my thinking. still it should be clear that I am pretty behind vs. his callingrange.

I dont see how you are behind vs his calling range. Its a great river to bluff and his bluffcatching range should widen, especially if you are 3betting/squeezing with a high frequency. You are repping a decent amount of bluffs and you have a 2pair. Sounds like an easy value spot.

I dont see how you are behind vs his calling range. Its a great river to bluff and his bluffcatching range should widen, especially if you are 3betting/squeezing with a high frequency. You are repping a decent amount of bluffs and you have a 2pair. Sounds like an easy value spot.

Idk, I just think that Co would flat pre 100% KK+ cause the SB was rly a huge fish (68/12).
The results of this is that his perceived range is little stronger postflop compared with other tabledynamics pre - and hence my turnjam should be also perceived in being stronger what should result in him herocalling less....


Still you seem to be right here, if this range is not too optimsitic - what you think bout it?

Board:


Equity Win Tie
MP2 57.58% 57.58% 0.00% Ad8h
MP3 42.42% 42.42% 0.00% KK+, ATs+, KQs, KsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, AQo, AdJs, AhJs, AcJs, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc
Board:


I am confident that this would be his call-offrange when the SB would have been a reg.(then he even would have very rarely KK+ in his range and AKs).
But due to my described thoughts I wonder if ppl feel they wanna call it off there with a hand like KcQc or so... - they have here enough better hands to call it off given their range OTT... - hence folding such a hand like KcQc, even maybe AcTc would not make them exploitable.

edit:
even when they fold a bit more, my eq would be still easily enough high, that I definitely wanna jam this turn being OOP.

Idk, I just think that Co would flat pre 100% KK+ cause the SB was rly a huge fish (68/12).
The results of this is that his perceived range is little stronger postflop compared with other tabledynamics pre - and hence my turnjam should be also perceived in being stronger what should result in him herocalling less....


Still you seem to be right here, if this range is not too optimsitic - what you think bout it?

Board:


Equity Win Tie
MP2 57.58% 57.58% 0.00% Ad8h
MP3 42.42% 42.42% 0.00% KK+, ATs+, KQs, KsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, AQo, AdJs, AhJs, AcJs, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc
Board:


I am confident that this would be his call-offrange when the SB would have been a reg.(then he even would have very rarely KK+ in his range and AKs).
But due to my described thoughts I wonder if ppl feel they wanna call it off there with a hand like KcQc or so... - they have here enough better hands to call it off given their range OTT... - hence folding such a hand like KcQc, even maybe AcTc would not make them exploitable.

edit:
even when they fold a bit more, my eq would be still easily enough high, that I definitely wanna jam this turn being OOP.

This player folds KcQc to a turn jam, but call AcTc 90%. I think The turn calling it of range, you gave looks fine. I like jamming OTT.

Imagine you have KJo, maybe even with a spade. An A comes on the turn. What is your move?
Once you answer this question, you should know what to do with A8.

When you have value, try to rep a bluff and vice versa.

Good point.. To think about..

Idk, I just think that Co would flat pre 100% KK+ cause the SB was rly a huge fish (68/12)..

this is projection. you need a read to be 100% certain. I would start at like 50% certain.

Equity Win Tie
MP2 57.58% 57.58% 0.00% Ad8h
MP3 42.42% 42.42% 0.00% KK+, ATs+, KQs, KsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, AQo, AdJs, AhJs, AcJs, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc

what does it look like if you take out AJ, ATs, and KQs? (I don't have stove on this computer)?

The majority of your range should be barreling this turn card. If you cant barrel here profitably with 2 pair you are not barreling enough.

this is projection. you need a read to be 100% certain. I would start at like 50% certain.

It also depends on whether CO still flats a sqz to $25.

what does it look like if you take out AJ, ATs, and KQs? (I don't have stove on this computer)?

Hero only need about 40%, this is even without removing any combos. Which makes this a clear turn jam, AJ, ATs, and KQs does not effect heros equity -17% imo.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
704 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Q82A
Ad8h 35.37% (249 wins, 0 ties)
AA, AQs, KQs, KsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, AQo, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc 64.63% (455 wins, 0 ties)

Without KQs, it's only 21.5% and it's definitely not an easy call with KQ. I think even if you have KsQh, it's tough to call. How often are your pair outs good when you face a shove?
I'll think about it some more, but I definitely think it's not an easy shove by any means.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
704 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Q82A
Ad8h 35.37% (249 wins, 0 ties)
AA, AQs, KQs, KsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, AQo, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc 64.63% (455 wins, 0 ties)

Without KQs, it's only 21.5% and it's definitely not an easy call with KQ. I think even if you have KsQh, it's tough to call. How often are your pair outs good when you face a shove?
I'll think about it some more, but I definitely think it's not an easy shove by any means.

Okay I see, looks like a job for Cardrunners EV..