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First time using this HH converter so if i screw up my apologies... Hero is a decent reg but no specific history with him, no notes saying he hero calls which i always make etc. he plays 23/19 and 3bets 8.5% with btn steal of 70%

I am fairly straightforward nitty tag playing about 20/15 with 3bet of 6%, i think villain will give me credit here: my range for C/r here is all sets (minus QQ would 3bet), KJcc/dd, KTdd/cc, I would c.r sometimes KT and KJ and often combos of T8, JT. I would C/r Axdd sometimes, but not 100% of the time. I do not think he would think i am bluffing here too often

Villain is aggro and i feel c/c is bad as so many cards will be terrible for me and he will simply bet bet bet. SO i elect to c/r and barrel off on most turns minus a Q possibly

I think my turn bet should be bigger... definitely to rep a big hand

On river i think his range is AQ, KQ, KJ, QT QJ, JJ, T8, JT and some combos of KK and AA, I think he would 3bet flop w straight+FD combos, sets and 2 pair most of the time. also he called turn fast so I think he has some semi weak showdown value, i think flush draws would think about it and also nutted hands.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $531.17 (265.6 bb)
SB: $208 (104 bb)
Hero (BB): $241.52 (120.8 bb)
UTG: $92.38 (46.2 bb)
MP: $168.99 (84.5 bb)
CO: $211 (105.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) 9 6 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero raises to $19, BTN calls $13


Turn: ($47) T (2 players)
Hero bets $36, BTN calls $36

River: ($119) A (2 players)
Hero bets $80,

Again - I never post hands so if I am missing something or it is too rambly please tell me how to make this post more clear and useful for advice, thanks!

any advice please.

We rep a narrow value range on the flop. The turn and river are not improving our perceived range that much, only AQ and KJ made strong hands. Villains range is something like AQ,KQ,QJ,QT,KK.. Since especially the FD missed I think villain will bluffcatch you pretty often.

is it better on rainbow flop? I just feel c/c the flop here is burning money, maybe i am wrong.

out of villains range i think he folds sometimes KQ and KK but maybe that is optimistic, QJ, JJ, KT, T8

he calls with AA, KJ, AQ, Qt and sometimes KK and KQ - I need him to fold 40% of the time if I am doing the math right...

I am not trying to defend what I posted, I agree with your post to that my range is narrow, I would not have posted it if i was sure it is a good line. His timing on turn made me think he did not have a nutted hand as i think it would at least take a few seconds to think about raising.

I'm not a zoom player and my main game is 50nl so don't take my comments as "Holy". The turn does not improve villains range that much IMO. And the fact that he did snapcall on the turn might indicate a bluffcatcher. You are correct about the 40% FE we need to break even. You can count the call and fold combos in villains range and see if you have the 40%.

thanks for your reply, I think you are right and I get hero called a lot, he will say FD missed and just close his eyes and call wtih Qx too much. it is not standard for me but just wanted to feed back, have trouble playing middle pairs on drawy-ish boards.

Lets wait and see what other people say. Maybe they have more interesting thoughts on this hand.

Anyway, I would fold this hand preflop. We are OOP and we are even an underdog vs hands like Q2s.

We rep a narrow value range on the flop. The turn and river are not improving our perceived range that much, only AQ and KJ made strong hands. Villains range is something like AQ,KQ,QJ,QT,KK.. Since especially the FD missed I think villain will bluffcatch you pretty oftensetdn.

I think our flop value/stack off range is fairly wide Axdd,78dd,67dd,KJo,KTdd,JTdd,AQ,KQ,and sets.
on the turn we pretty much barrel the entire range and by the river our value range is AQ,Axdd,KJ,78,AQ, and sets so i think our value range is not that narrow. As for villains river calling range is something like AQ,Sets,KJ, so i think he folds a fair amount by the river but would need to do the math.

If you think that villain gives you a strong range, and then calls you OTF, i wouldn't continue with my bluffs/semibluffs with little to no equity, because his range is likely to be strong.

I'd shut down turn + river, hoping he has a bluffcatcher which he will take to showdown.

I am not sure do we have to ch/raise this flop, given the fact that most non-fishy regs no Cbetting here as a bluff esp. in Btn.

Hate your flop raise.

Really doesnt make much sense.

can you give me advice on how to play hands like this, i just feel i will be folding by the river so often i am lighting money on fire.

that being said this line maybe lighting more money on fire

Don't defend this kinda hands if you don't know how to play it in such a close spots, because it appears to be -ev call pre.

Don't defend this kinda hands if you don't know how to play it in such a close spots, because it appears to be -ev call pre.

You should be defending this hand 100% of the time against min raisers.

You should be defending this hand 100% of the time against min raisers.

I know a lot of good players even they are so good postflop, but not defending this against a minraise and they still are good and winning players (non microstakes ofc).

So why this hand should be in the graph "should defend", when we are not sure in our postflop skills ?

First example appeared in my mind is Leatherass.

I know a lot of good players even they are so good postflop, but not defending this against a minraise and they still are good and winning players (non microstakes ofc).

So why this hand should be in the graph "should defend", when we are not sure in our postflop skills ?

First example appeared in my mind is Leatherass.

Well its aleak then.

Against 70% BTN stealers and min raise its a call and its not even very close.

Against 50% BTN stealers and then making it 3x its a fold..... theres probably the difference. ......

preflop is good.

flop is probably pretty close. I think check-calling is probably pretty close to 0 EV... if you think it's -EV, then I think it's fine to turn it into a bluff. I'd probably use it in my donk bluffing range rather than check-raising range.