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Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1816112
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BTN: $369.08
Hero (SB): $201.00
BB: $278.82
UTG: $169.68
MP: $200.00
CO: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with T T
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, Hero raises to $9.60, BB calls $7.60, UTG calls $7.60

Flop: ($28.80) 7 9 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $20.00, BB calls $20, UTG calls $20

Turn: ($88.80) 4 (3 players)
[color=red]Hero ?

BB is a REG:
http://imgur.com/q02FT

and UTG is obv. a fish.

The reg is kinda good, so he will for sure trap pre some bigpairs and call then only his toprange OTF with the fish behind.
So his range is something like: TT+ (maybe some 9x-hands like A9s, T9s - though not sure how good of a flopcall it is for him with those hands....), sets, 97s and then a bunch of FD (maybe like A2s-a5s, a8s+,suited broadways -> around .12 -15 combos only):
The fishe` s range is obv. way wider like any pair, way more FDs, str8draws...
So against the fish we have obv. a very easy bet for value and protec.
Wonder how the situation might change though given that there`s still a reg involved with a pretty strong range?

So what is your line OTT and what`s your betsize, if you wanna bet?

I wouldnt put that many overpairs in his range.

Your open looks strong but he can def have alot weaker of a range than you put him on.

I would just bet and proceed to get value from draws and worse pairs. Checking means you cant bluff here in the future and means you let him play nearly perfectly with his range, and opens you up to make mistakes.

FWIW Id say betting $30 > checking if you are concern with how strong his range could possibly be.

PS. Im not saying betting $30 is correct here but Im very sure checking is a mistake given your perceive strength and how you would play the other parts of your range. Id rather check AA or KK, and go for a c/r.

Which probably means you have to stack off with this hand and just go for bet/bet/bet (and balance your AK or JT bluffs),

I'd bet fold the turn. Betting doesn't do great against the Regs range, but I think you need to be focusing more on how to exploit the Fish range which will include alot of worse hands which will continue.

I'd bet fold the turn. Betting doesn't do great against the Regs range, but I think you need to be focusing more on how to exploit the Fish range which will include alot of worse hands which will continue.

yeah, agree.
I guess wsomething like 50$ should be enough here with my whole range?

@nowayfolding:
Many good points.
I only think that C/Ring AA/KK would be an overplay here just cause the reg is calling also all his sets with the fish behind OTF and should expect me to know this....

yeah, agree.
I guess wsomething like 50$ should be enough here with my whole range?

@nowayfolding:
Many good points.
I only think that C/Ring AA/KK would be an overplay here just cause the reg is calling also all his sets with the fish behind OTF and should expect me to know this....

Yes true but way more combos of 9x and draws than sets.....

Yes true but way more combos of 9x and draws than sets.....

thing is that with 9x he can fold vs. a C/R given the situation, imo.

I think you should bomb it for value.

Sure, the reg will fold all his weak hands and daws, but you'll get a ton of value from the fish.

It's not a balanced line, but since we're never bluffing with the fish in the pot, we're never balanced here anyway.

If the reg calls or raises we can be pretty sure were behind and just give up.

NoWayFolding - Why would you care about not being able to bluff here anymore? imo we would never bluff here after getting called by 2 players on the flop and barrel as bluff on this turn card. i think this is such a rare spot (compared to other situations) that we dont have to worry about being balanced. What are your arguments to think about that in this spot?

NoWayFolding - Why would you care about not being able to bluff here anymore? imo we would never bluff here after getting called by 2 players on the flop and barrel as bluff on this turn card. i think this is such a rare spot (compared to other situations) that we dont have to worry about being balanced. What are your arguments to think about that in this spot?

I would bluff here triple barreling with JTs and draws..

I'd bet around $58-$65 for value. Reg's range is probably wide, because he has posistion on you+he knows fish is likely to come along.

lets go one step ahead here, if we bet 55 and reg calls and fish jams for ~139, are we bet/calling or bet/folding?

I think nobody is folding that anymore with 1:4

lets go one step ahead here, if we bet 55 and reg calls and fish jams for ~139, are we bet/calling or bet/folding?

I would not bet there an underpair.

I would not bet there an underpair.

He means $55

He means $55

oops, sry^^


@your question:
very ugly spot when we bet 55, reg calls and fish jams.
Guess reg would often fastplay OTT his strong hands and maybe the fish could just see a ton of deadmoney and jam light enough, so that we would just be committed, I guess....