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Villain is a reg playing 22/16. In general he's pretty stationy postflop. Fold v cbet is 47% and has only folded to 1/12 turn cbets so far. He seems to not give me a lot of credit.

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BTN: $61.50
SB: $293.49
BB: $198.00
Hero (UTG): $217.67
CO: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $6.00, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15.00) 5 4 T (2 players)
Hero bets $10.00, CO calls $10

Turn: ($35.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $26.25, CO calls $26.25

River: ($87.50) A (2 players)
[color=red]Hero?

His range for getting to the river probably doesn't have a lot of Ax in it besides a few combos. He can also have some sets if he doesn't raise earlier, but I think most of his range for getting to the river is bluff-catchers like Tx, 77-88. He probably expects me to fire this river as a bluff a decent amount, but it will also give me more hands I can be value betting. So with all that in my mind is QQ a hand I should be value betting?

i think i vbet here pretty happily given on this patricular turn a lot of your strong broadway hands that you have from utg barrel pretty frequently and anyone knows

i think i vbet here pretty happily given on this patricular turn a lot of your strong broadway hands that you have from utg barrel pretty frequently and anyone knows

+1

also like it given the read that he's stationy postflop

i think i vbet here pretty happily given on this patricular turn a lot of your strong broadway hands that you have from utg barrel pretty frequently and anyone knows

Cool, I thought at the time it was a pretty clear value bet but obv got owned...

Hand has been misplayed a bit, because you didn't adjust your bet sizing accordingly.

In general he's pretty stationy postflop.
(...)has only folded to 1/12 turn cbets so far

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BTN: $61.50
SB: $293.49
BB: $198.00
Hero (UTG): $217.67
CO: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $6.00, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15.00) 5 4 T (2 players)
Hero bets $13.00, CO calls $13

Turn: ($41.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $35, CO calls $35

River: ($111.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $55.50, CO calls $55.50

Hero shows Q Q
CO shows K T

Hand has been misplayed a bit, because you didn't adjust your bet sizing accordingly.

Yeah you are probably right. Maybe a little autopilot going on here. But I'm not convinced I should be bombing the flop here. My UTG range is in general stronger so that is a good reason to make it bigger, but I also will still have a decent amount of weak hands on this board and don't mind getting a decent price on my cbet. OTT it certainly makes sense to just bomb it because he like never folds to turn cbets and therefore my range will almost always be betting for value. But I'm also not convinced about 1/2 pot OTR. I think he might be more likely to see that as a value bet with Ax or better.....I guess this depends on how he will interpret river bet sizes and villains can be different in this regard. I didn't have a read on this up to this point, but based on game flow I felt that my image wasn't great in his view and he would be likely to hero call me if I bet big OTR.

Villain is a reg playing 22/16. In general he's pretty stationy postflop. Fold v cbet is 47% and

This is stationy? Apparently I'm huge station then I fold to cbet like 30%. Would fold even less if I played 22/16.

But I'm also not convinced about 1/2 pot OTR.

I'm also not sure about the merit of betting 1/2psb on the river. 1/2p looks exactly like you're trying to go for value from Tx type of hands.

Personally I like betting big to try to rep Ax that he won't give you credit for, and therefore look you up with a bluff catcher.

This is stationy? Apparently I'm huge station then I fold to cbet like 30%. Would fold even less if I played 22/16.

Should have said he's stationy past the flop imo. Folded to 1/12 turn cbets so far.

Should have said he's stationy past the flop imo. Folded to 1/12 turn cbets so far.

But if he folded everything bad on the flop he doesn't need to fold on the turn so "stationy past the flop" is still relative.

But if he folded everything bad on the flop he doesn't need to fold on the turn so "stationy past the flop" is still relative.

That may be true, but I still think that is a really low fold to turn cbet. I guess I should say that based on his tendencies he is likely to get to the river with almost his entire flop cbet calling range, if that makes sense.

Bet the river, and it's not the worst hand to bet with either. A normal size. You want to have thinner value bets if you want to be able to bluff here.

You want to have thinner value bets if you want to be able to bluff here.

I don't think this matters at all. perceived range and actual range is not related at all. People call because our perceived range has bluffs regardless of how we construct our actual range. Only difference is if we check this hand and villain see it he MAY adjust and call us lighter in the future due to our perceived range being more polarized now. But we have this information as well so we can construct our actual range differently again.

Betting for thin value and get called has the exactly same implications where our perceived range may appear more depolarized and villain may be more inclined to turn made hand into bluff instead of bluff catching.

For the record, I think you should bet the river. Because you should have over 50% equity vs a calling range.

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