Prologion
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AstonMartin
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weird spot to be bluffing, what hand is he trying to bluff out ?? given we are facing pretty tight ranges here i dont think he is bluffing much
i must say that me porsonally i would try to catch some bluffs with a strong hand rather then donk out (for me it doesnt make sense to actually be donking out with a strong hand) so thats weird also
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Prologion
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Any hand SB is leading the river with should be betting on the turn.
obv. agree that his line is technically terribad and wtf.
But once it happens anyways, you are interested what other ppl might think he could have based on their own experiences....
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mesch_pkr
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Theese are the kinda spots that makes me do stupid calls when I play. When I only have 15-20s to figure out his range with this superwierd line. I almost never succeed to figure out his range and mostly end up making my decision based on my hand strenght only. Probably calling a little bit too much I guess.
I guess many things comes into play here. IE your own stats and dynamics with the guy, since that can make him do some funky stuff, both preflop and postflop.
However say we don't have those reads, how do we break down his range here? I hate theese spots and would probably benefit alot improving and quickening my thought process when they occur.
Axh is the only logic hand for me he can have, but I guess he can have lots of other stuff, so enlighten me!
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stupid spot, it's too bad you're not deeper here
why? would you rly cosider then to do something?
I mean, even when I do not look like a strong hand due to my flop-checkback, would he rly bluff this way?
Or value-lead s stronger ace or we?
wouldn`t he just val.bet everything what can bet OTR for value rather himself OTT?
unless Ahxh, 7hxh maybe?
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Prologion
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yes, you can represent a flush here, but you don't have enough behind to make him fold. that said, i wouldn't auto shove deeper, but at least it becomes an option.
yeah, I see.
but that would only make sense if he
- can bluff this way (seems not like an usual bluffline to me)
amd
- val.lead less (wouldn`t ppl worry that they overrep their hand here when they valuelead anything <Backdorr-Flush here, when I could have a flush myself?)
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Steppin Razor
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This is weird enough I might look it up. The river bet makes zero sense. Maybe he thinks UTG would call w/TT or 99, but would've folded the turn? The best thing I can say is I don't hate his sizing.
I don't think this is a weak made hand. Either he backdoored the nut flush/stupid slowplayed set, or he whiffed a KQo type hand.
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Prologion
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I don't think this is a weak made hand. Either he backdoored the nut flush/stupid slowplayed set, or he whiffed a KQo type hand.
yeah, agree.
but wouldn`t he just stab his air OTT, instead of C/Call it and leading the river?
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