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200nl 6max- turn valuebet?


just4grind0r

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hey guys

villain, fish, 77/20, passive, no relevant reads, only 60 hands


1 you like my flopbetsize?

2 you bet turn 4 value?

2.1 how much do you bet?

2.2 do yoou call a shove?

Merge $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 949506
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $60.80
UTG: $236.20
MP: $225.25
CO: $34.42
Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $318.96

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 8 Spade A Spade
1 fold, MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, Hero calls $7, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($30.00) T Club A Club 2 Spade (4 players)
SB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $21.00, SB calls $21, MP folds, CO folds

Turn: ($72.00) Q Spade (2 players)
SB checks

Final Pot: $72.00

Posted over 1 year ago

YUMMYBUFFET

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i'd check, intending to value bet small a blank river as well as get paid on a spade or 8...unless he's extremely passive and stationy to slowplay a monster and/or c/c again bare Ax and FD's.

Posted over 1 year ago

DireStr88

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I bet/commit here vs. the fish, he's calling a ton of KT, JT, KQ, QJ, worse Ax and flush draws there, worst case scenario is KJ, QT and AQ (which we block) and we've got the back door to draw out vs. those.

Vs. better villains, it's going to depend a lot on how you think they play their flush draw here.

Posted over 1 year ago

jubinator

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I make a bet, given that the small blind didnt lead the flop, or CR on the flop, we can eliminate sets/2pairs generally. Therefore I am thinking villain has a hand similar to ours, or has a gutter/FD hand.

We can bet the turn to get value from these/protect our hand. On the river, there are lots of cards that can helpo both our hand strength

Posted over 1 year ago

just4grind0r

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DireStr88

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you like the flopbetsizes?



Yeah it's fine, just betting into a field of players represents strength and it's easier to get all the money in by the river when the pot is already twice as big as normal on the flop.

You don't need to bet all that big there IMO.

Posted over 1 year ago

just4grind0r

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i think about making it 19, cause its <20 and doesnt look very strong

how do you think about it?

Posted over 1 year ago

RiverRock55

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I like your flop sizing and wouldn't overanalyze it like you are doing above.

Vs a true passive fish I would bet like $50 and fold to a checkraise shove because we would be getting crappy odds and passive fish would rarely play a draw that way. And it lets us build a pot if we do nit a spade and valuetown him.

But this guy at 77/20 only 60 hands almost seems like a more spazzy unpredictable type of fish, im more inclinde to check back because I won't like folding if he does checkraise shove, I wont like calling a checkraise shove, and a spazzy fish is way more likely to bluff river if we check turn behind than a passive fish.

Posted over 1 year ago

just4grind0r

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i am deciding my betsize between 58 and 49, i decide for 49 cause that let a nice riverbetsize behind

Posted over 1 year ago

NoWayFolding

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I probably bet smaller on the flop.

Betting turn is fine if you know what to do, otherwsie check back and call miss draw rivers.

Posted over 1 year ago




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