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Playbook: Episode Seven

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Playbook: Episode Seven by sthief09, Sounded Simple

SoundedSimple and Sthief09 flip things around and discuss 3-betting and playing the flop when called.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 94 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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Comments for Playbook: Episode Seven


zenben

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Time Link to 00:14:50

I'm glad you clarified that the v-junk is defined as hands that could not be profitably called preflop while solid hands can be (ie v-junk is the top of our folding range). This is a better way to look at it than arranging the sections with a PS hand chart, as these ranges change depending on villain's player type or how they respond/adjust to us. For instance, KTo may be in the solid value portion vs a wide stealing range and can be called profitably, but if he tightens up later in the match, it would be considered v-junk vs his tight range and be better to 3bet. In addition, the same actual hand could be in 1 range for one player and a different range for another player at the same time. This could def be confusing to players not versed in "pre flop equities" without this clarification.

Posted over 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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I've sent some hands in to look at for EP 8, if you would prefer for it to be posted here or in another thread please let me know.

Great series so far!

Posted over 1 year ago

Sounded Simple

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Thanks for the feedback and hands respectively guys, if anyone else has hands they think are interesting then post them here or PM them to either myself or Josh asap (starting to write EP8 now). If you want to remain anonymous we can sort that no problem.

Posted over 1 year ago

UU!I.I.4AAUU35

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Only 18 hands on this opponent, is this too wimpy?
Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: $74.80
Hero (BTN): $50.50
SB: $60.38
BB: $18.83
UTG: $55.38

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has Qs Ac

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BB raises to $5.50, fold

Flop: ($3.75, 1 players) 4s 6d 2s

Turn: ($3.75, 1 players) 6s

River: ($3.75, 1 players) 9c

BB shows Js Jd (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)
BB wins $3.75


Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

LP: $11.65
CO: $26.63
BTN: $60.75
SB: $29.66
BB: $71.33
UTG: $53.28
UTG+1: $6.88
MP: $30.52
Hero (MP+1): $52.05

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has Ad Jd

UTG calls $0.50, fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, LP calls $2.75, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $2.25, UTG raises to $53.28, fold, fold, LP calls $8.90, fold

Flop: ($29.55, 2 players) Th 3d 6h

Turn: ($29.55, 2 players) 4h

River: ($29.55, 2 players) 2s

LP shows Kd Ac (High Card, Ace)
UTG shows Ks Kh (One Pair, Kings)
UTG wins $0.00
UTG wins $28.08

On this hand, over 146 hands, villain's stats show
26vp, 21pfr, and a 3-bet % of 13. I think the first two hands were ok to lay down, because they are pretty unknown to me, but here it looks like this guy 3-bets rather wide, and I have position, I don't know if it is necessarily an obvious decision?:

Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: $4.33
Hero (MP): $50.00
CO: $18.75
BTN: $52.59
SB: $224.64
BB: $71.21

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has Ac Jd

UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, SB raises to $7.75, fold, fold, fold

SB wins $5.50

I have recently been playing 50 nl, with which I am relatively inexperienced, and these marginal 3 bet situations seem more common than at 25 nl vs opponents who are rather skillful, and have kind of wide 3 bet ranges?

Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $58.59
SB: $79.84
BB: $31.90
UTG: $51.23
Hero (CO): $50.00

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has Kc Qc

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, BTN raises to $6.00, fold, fold, fold

BTN wins $4.25

In the above hand the button showed 99. Am I just too nitty in these spots? On merge, it seems the players really dont fold much in marginal spots, and the notion of trying to just blow someone off of a hand like nines seems kind of spazzy- I see people call big bets with crappy hands over and over, how can I just assume I have any fold equity at all?

Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $95.70
BB: $54.87
UTG: $9.25

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has Kd Jd

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BB raises to $5.50, fold

BB wins $3.75

This is the kind of thing I was talking about, how can I even think about 4- bet bluffs after seeing this:

Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $50.75
UTG: $35.98
Hero (MP): $63.45
CO: $14.94
BTN: $40.65
SB: $40.45

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50, CO posts DB $0.75

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has 4s 4h

UTG raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, CO calls $2.00, BTN raises to $9.83, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $7.33

Flop: ($25.66, 2 players) 6d 2s 6s
CO bets $4.86, BTN calls $4.86

Turn: ($35.38, 2 players) 9d

River: ($35.38, 2 players) 2c

CO shows 8s 5c (Two Pair, Sixes and Twos)
BTN shows Ad Ah (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
BTN wins $33.62

Merge - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $51.81
BB: $51.39
UTG: $7.00
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $50.00

BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero has 6s 6d

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.00, BTN calls $1.00

Flop: ($7.50, 3 players) 7d 6h 9d
BB bets $5.63, Hero raises to $24.39, fold, BB raises to $49.31, Hero calls $23.11

Turn: ($102.50, 2 players) 4c

River: ($102.50, 2 players) Qs

BB shows 2h 9h (One Pair, Nines)
BB wins $0.00
Hero wins $100.50

It just seems like balancing my range with "bluffs" is kind of tricky, with stuff like this. Although, I realize that my fold to 3-bet is probably too high, and I feel like some of the good loose- aggressives
are taking advantage of me folding too much?

Posted over 1 year ago

zenben

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One idea that might make those 3bet charts easier to read-why not use color-codes rather than %'s? This way, you don't risk people taking the number too literally, and you can better see the relationships between the variables (their valence as well as strength). Now that you have the %'s in, it would be very easy to equate a range of %'s to a color (e.g. 66-100%=green, 40-65%=yellow 0-39%=red)

They would be much easier to read this way as well.

Posted over 1 year ago

Sounded Simple

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One idea that might make those 3bet charts easier to read-why not use color-codes rather than %'s? This way, you don't risk people taking the number too literally, and you can better see the relationships between the variables (their valence as well as strength). Now that you have the %'s in, it would be very easy to equate a range of %'s to a color (e.g. 66-100%=green, 40-65%=yellow 0-39%=red)

They would be much easier to read this way as well.



Agree, I will try to find the time to do this and upload them as a .doc or .jpeg soon.

Posted over 1 year ago

shaggy

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Good stuff guys

Link for Josh's spreadsheet?

Posted over 1 year ago

sthief09

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Good stuff guys

Link for Josh's spreadsheet?





https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFVxRm8zcHZreEJjR0E9PQ

I think that should be the good one. I made so many that I tweaked for the video. I'll have to double check that tonight but I'm pretty sure that one is good for you to use.

Posted over 1 year ago

Justice88

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https://www.yousendit.com/download/UFVxRm8zcHZreEJjR0E9PQ

I think that should be the good one. I made so many that I tweaked for the video. I'll have to double check that tonight but I'm pretty sure that one is good for you to use.



File is not available

Posted over 1 year ago

sthief09

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shaggy

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http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/sthief09/7762/Playbook Sheets.rar

that should be a permanent link to all the sheets.



Link didn't work.

Posted over 1 year ago

Entity

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Link didn't work.


Works now, Josh had a space in the URL.

Rob

Posted over 1 year ago

rohan68

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Agree, I will try to find the time to do this and upload them as a .doc or .jpeg soon.


hi thanks for the videos
did you do the doc? i do not see a lin

i do not understand chart called (combating captain 4bet), all hands execpt (TT+ AQ+) are under 100, that means we lose money if we shove them??? so why do you say small PP a re very good (22 is 98bb ev so we lose moeny), does the tree does not take dead money in count? its only a stove of 22+ against TT+ AQ+?

i'm not english, for AQ factors, you meant if he 4bet folds AQ it decreases ev of small PP and increases ev of Axs to 5bet? how do we know he 4bets fold AQ?

thanks

Posted 11 months ago

Sounded Simple

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hi thanks for the videos
did you do the doc? i do not see a lin

i do not understand chart called (combating captain 4bet), all hands execpt (TT+ AQ+) are under 100, that means we lose money if we shove them??? so why do you say small PP a re very good (22 is 98bb ev so we lose moeny), does the tree does not take dead money in count? its only a stove of 22+ against TT+ AQ+?



I think the number you refer to is "ev of final stack", when faced with a 4-bet we can either fold or shove (ignore calling for now). If we fold our "ev of final stack" will be 89bb if we started with 100bb and made a 3bet to 11bb.

Therefore any strategy that gives us an "ev of final stack" greater than 89bb is better than folding.

i'm not english, for AQ factors, you meant if he 4bet folds AQ it decreases ev of small PP and increases ev of Axs to 5bet? how do we know he 4bets fold AQ?

thanks



Probably better to say that if we see him get all in with AQ:
- ev of PP 5bet increases
- ev of Axs decreases

You are right we can never know what he folds Smile

Posted 11 months ago




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