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Villain: VPIP: 22 PFR: 18 WTS: 30 AF: 2.0 steal BU 50% Folds to 3bet 73% 4bets 12% (4bet range 2.1%) Sample: 3k Hands - No Reads

Kinda weird situation here. Usually I wouldnt ever call a 4bet oop with 100bb stacks. This time tho I thought it might actually be OK. The player in the BB was a 45/10 fish. Villain on the BU doesnt usually minopen the BU. So I really dont believe him having a strong hand at all since he would open bigger because of the fish. I think I should assume 99% that that he knows he should open his V-hands bigger vs the fish. So I cleary 3bet 4 value here. I have 3bet quite a bunch so I think he might make a play back at me now.

Shipping is kinda bad since my hand does pretty bad vs his 5bet calling range. So I decided to call and donkbluff a few flops or C/R on certain boards. I think on this board I can get him to fold some bad Ax hands.

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 896012
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BB: $724.95
CO: $202.55
BTN: $269.55
Hero (SB): $205.95

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with Q K
1 fold, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, BTN raises to $38, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($78.00) 5 8 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $40.00, BTN calls $40

Turn: ($158.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks

I´d rather jam the flop than betting and c/f turn. And while open-jamming the flop oop is a suicidal play it clearly shows why flatting the 4bet pre is basically bad. Either 3bet-fold pre or flat and let BB-fish come along. IF BTN´s range actually is so weak, there´s no need to "bluff" him off that weak range.

I´d rather jam the flop than betting and c/f turn. And while open-jamming the flop oop is a suicidal play it clearly shows why flatting the 4bet pre is basically bad. Either 3bet-fold pre or flat and let BB-fish come along. IF BTN´s range actually is so weak, there´s no need to "bluff" him off that weak range.

but isnt it alright to make him fold Ax here and bluff some turns, also having some EQ obv.???

but isnt it alright to make him fold Ax here and bluff some turns, also having some EQ obv.???

Chances are he will not fold any of Ax he is 4-betting preflop with to your flop 1/2 pot lead...

Why didn't you just jam preflop if you were confident in your read?

a 4bet call pre OOP wKQoff versus a good TAG is most of the time a -EV play

Why didn't you just jam preflop if you were confident in your read?

Well to to me it seemed like with KQo vs his 5bet-calling range, the risk/reward ratio is not really what I want with very few EQ. So I decided since the price to call pre was pretty good and you still have some room to move postflop, it was OK to call. Just a weird spot

Well to to me it seemed like with KQo vs his 5bet-calling range, the risk/reward ratio is not really what I want with very few EQ. So I decided since the price to call pre was pretty good and you still have some room to move postflop, it was OK to call. Just a weird spot

so you have few fold equity pre but some room to move postflop?
if he doesn't have enough air preflop he doesn't show up with enough air on the flop also