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NL100: bottomset 170bb deep oop


D3rJack

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Joined 02/2010

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 580952
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CO: $101.50
BTN: $78.50
Hero (SB): $175.40
BB: $35.00
UTG: $224.20
MP: $226.45

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 2 Heart 2 Diamond
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) 2 Spade A Club Q Club (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($17.00) J Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $13, Hero raises to $42, MP requests TIME, MP raises to $218.45 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero ???

Stats Villian: 25/21/7.0 over 125hands

Villian seemed pretty solid so far and pretty aggressive. My own table image was pretty aggressive too. My stats were like 35/30 so far.

I don´t really know if the preflop call is good. I thought I have nice implied odds if I hit a set, because we were pretty deep. But getting value with a set oop is difficult, so I should probably just fold preflop.

On the flop I wasn´t sure if I should c/r or c/c with the intention to c/r the turn. I decided to take the c/c c/r line because villian was really aggressive. So I thought he might fire a lot of 2nd barrels to get me off a Q or a draw.

On the turn after c/r villian shoved, giving me odds of 1.8:1. In his range are deffinetely AA,QQ, don´t think he would have bet the Flop with JJ. You think he has hands like AQ or AJ often enough in his range for calling here?

Posted almost 2 years ago

Tackleberry

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Seems as if you had no real plan when c/r-ing the turn, right? Wink

Posted almost 2 years ago

D3rJack

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Seems as if you had no real plan when c/r-ing the turn, right? Wink



Yeah you´re right. Was running pretty bad in this session and that had an effect on my game Smile

Posted almost 2 years ago

halvadron

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Joined 06/2009

basicly the more he`s capable stacking off AJ and AQ here, mb even QJ (the more combos we can add to his overall range) the better stacking off here is. But i think it`s close cose he must understand AJ and AQ that deep is just not strong enough vs your turn CRing range

Posted almost 2 years ago

Macio

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Joined 03/2010

wow - not often i see a hand that I am not sure what to do, his play is SO STRONG .. he have to give you credit for having a set so why do i think he has KT here ....

I want to call but i am scared as hell to do so ........ no idea really Poke Tongue

What did he have or did you folded ?

Posted almost 2 years ago

udownwithvpp

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Joined 04/2008

J is an awful turn card and I can find a fold here. BTW I almost always repop the flop.

Posted almost 2 years ago

jubinator

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Joined 02/2007

I like to raise this turn. When you call this flop, you are indicated you have some piece of the board, therefore I would not expect you to fold to a turn bet. Therefore villain will only continue when he also has a piece of the board. And given that if he has a weak marginal hand, he can get to SD cheap a raise is going to get the most money in from the his weak hands.

Posted almost 2 years ago

rjpageuk

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Joined 02/2008

J is an awful turn card and I can find a fold here. BTW I almost always repop the flop.



Yeah I would raise the flop here every time. You only need to see how people are responding to his shove over your turn raise to realise how strong a c/c c/r line looks.

Preflop is fine, I would never fold any pair in this spot and especially so when deep.

I dont think the J is that bad for us, it increases his combo of 2pr hands, and also big combo draws.

Against just one set of hands we are beating (AQ) we have enough equity to call it off here:

Board: 2s Ac Qc Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.490% 38.49% 00.00% 525 0.00 { 2d2h }
Hand 1: 61.510% 61.51% 00.00% 839 0.00 { AA, QQ, AQs, KTs, AQo, KTo }

So I guess it is pretty close.

I think raising the flop is definitely the best play here, especially on a relatively wet A high board and once you do raise the flop the rest of the hand plays itself.

Posted almost 2 years ago

fr1234

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Joined 10/2009

I agree with the raise the flop folk. The flop hits his range, sure he will show up with a set of aces and a set of queens sometimes but way more often he'll have AK, AQ, AJ etc and a check raise smells alot like you have a couple of clubs in your hand so you underrep your hand somewhat and get more money in the pot at the same time.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Donkeybait

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Joined 09/2009

I agree with the raise the flop folk. The flop hits his range, sure he will show up with a set of aces and a set of queens sometimes but way more often he'll have AK, AQ, AJ etc and a check raise smells alot like you have a couple of clubs in your hand so you underrep your hand somewhat and get more money in the pot at the same time.



+ 1 raise the flop with the intention of getting it all in.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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