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DeucePlays Premium Episode 8: Fold Equity (Official Discussion)

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TazUltimate

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Bart talks about fold equity and it's roll in live cash games.



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zegota

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Does anyone use these forums for the podcast? Is there somewhere else I should be posting this? Let's see if I get some responses...

In the hand where Bart had AKo on a T54cc board and he discussed the worst double barrel turn cards, he says that the low straight cards are some of the worst to double barrel on; namely the 3, 6, and 7. I have a couple of questions about this.

1) I happened to listen to this podcast on the same day I watched threads13's newest video, Come Full Circle episode 1. He had a fairly similar situation where he double barrels on a Q56 rainbow board with a 7 turn. He said this was a great double barrel card because it keeps a lot of their weak flop peals in because they now have a pair with a draw and you can easily get em off with a small river bet. Obviously, online poker is different than live, and he also had K8 so the turn actually gave him an open ender. Nonetheless, if you're willing to triple barrel, is a straight card really that bad for double barreling?

2) Could you double barrel a turn that pairs the board, particularly a 10? Although I feel it's obvious that this actually makes hands like A5 or 88 more likely to be ahead, I also feel like a lot of live players will fear trips and actually be more likely to lay these down. Also, of course, it makes it less likely they have top pair. In my limited experience, I have not had a lot of success double barreling turns that pair.

Posted over 1 year ago

livebikebart

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Sorry that I didn't get back to this post earlier. I have neglected these forums since DP became DPP. I want to create an open dialogue here with subscribers and I do get back to every email that is sent to deuceplays@deucescracked.com.

It is interesting what thread13 says about these types of turn cards. I will say that I often dont triple barrel in live poker unless I feel like my opponent has picked up some sort of draw with his low pair (like a backdoor flush draw) coupled with many over cards on board--and then I underbluff the river.

Normally my approach to bluffing live is to build a pot up on early streets putting them to the test in the beginning of the hand. They then get scared and realize that it may cost them their stack on subsequent streets. This is a different approach from Threads13 of tagging them along and trying to bluff them off the river. I just feel like the more money your opponents put in the pot the more emotionally invested they get. This makes them harder to bluff later on.

And yes, I think that top pairing turns are good barrel cards especially 3 handed. When you bet again on scary boards your bet screams extreme strength vs more than one opponent.

Posted over 1 year ago




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