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Hey there,

So finally our boat started . Surrounded by retarted monkeys and goats we try to reach our aim with the help of our Zookeeper SootedPower.

This Thread is about our June NLH Group coaching , its going to help us to become rich, famous and maybe we get better in Poker.

I´m not quite sure what we write in here but we will see .
I think we will start with a short introduction of ourselves at first.

I´m 25 years old and a student in Dresden/Germany. Playing poker for 1 year now at nl25-nl50.. usually i play 6 or more tables, but obv it doesnt work , so i will start to play 4 tables to get more reads about player habits, i hope i dont fall asleep while playing *g*.


right!

Hey all,

I'm Ben, a 20 year-old student living in New York City. I've been playing poker for about 2 years now and have somehow (I started out as a limp fold donkey) managed to grind my way up from 0.05/0.10 [50 dollar deposit ftw] to 50nl-100nl.

I think I'll go ahead and post the first hand in the thread. This hand might be standard, I'm just trying to figure out how to extract max value and want to make sure my thinking is ok. I'm also wondering what to do with different hole cards

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 139899
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SB: $50.75
BB: $55.80
UTG: $21.95
MP: $9.20
Hero (CO): $54.20
BTN: $69.10

Reads on Villian: I just joined the table, so I had no reads. The hand prior to this, the villian raised the pot to 10BB after 4 people limped pf. Through 15 hands he was 33/33/66.7, but 15 hands is just way too small.

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $9, 1 fold, Hero calls $7.25

Here I elect to call the 3 bet because I haven't 4bet this session and 4betting will get a lot of his bad hands 88-qq to fold, ak will get it in with me and so will AA. I think 88-qq will be in his range as even though it's only be 15 hands he's been a lagtard.

Flop: ($18.50) 8 6 2 (2 players)
SB bets $12.50, Hero raises to $45.20 all in
Super dry flop, he elects to cbet. Now, my two options are shove or flat and hope he barrels the turn. I elected to shove because I think I can get a lot of his range to go in on this turn 99-AA will call, two high cards will fold. Shoving here will also get 99-jj in now whereas they might not get it in on high turn card.

Calling however is also a viable option, getting it in on a non-ace turn. But I think a lot of turn cards will kill our action against middle pair type hands. I would

I also don't know what I'd do with AK and tt-jj in this spot. Is AK just a fold with this low board? What about if the board were q52r? Then a shove on the flop folds a lot of middle pair hands I think.

With tt-jj there are less worse hands that will call our shove so I think a call would be better. I think QQ,AA are the same as KK in this spot?

Hey all,

I'm a 26 year old software/systems engineer in the US. I've been playing poker pretty seriously for about 5 years, but outside of the occasional home game or MTT, I've been exclusively a limit player online. I managed to run up a good bankroll on Pacific Poker from 1/2 limit to 15/30 limit, but with UIEGA, the overall better play, a lot of auto-pilot tilt, without a doubt some losing, and some cashing out, poker stopped being such a fun hobby.

As much as I enjoy the fast-action of limit, I really want to have a good second game to play. Each time I take a break from poker, I go to something new, but whether it's seven-stud, draw, or NL, these other games never stick. But this time I'm going to get good at NL, dammit. I'm usually the best player at my home games, but despite playing with mostly engineers, there's barely a real player in the game. My goals for this course are to turn NL into my main game, to be confident in my actions while playing NL, and to have more fun playing poker.

As for the hand above, I'm definitely going to try to get it all-in with that flop. The pot is too big compared to the stacks to really do anything else, so I like your thought process on how to get calls from as many weaker hands as possible. I think the shove is the right play - don't want villain getting scared of a high card.

If you decided to call, however, the pot would be $43.50 on the turn with $29.25 effective stacks. I don't care if a joker falls on the turn - I'm still planning on getting it in, but I might check back the turn if checked to.

Any thoughts on doing something silly like min-4betting preflop? It's rather transparent against a good thinking player, but so far it would work with our reads.

Posted a hand here - http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/8-Beginner-SS-No-Limit-Hold-em/topics/22431-50NL-Call-off-my-stack-60. Not the most interesting hand, but we have already talked a little about calling off stacks preflop with AK, and in this hand I'm debating a call against a player who isn't playing a full stack.

Yo
My name is Alex and i'm from Russia (sadface). I've been playing some what seriously for 3 months now (have only played like 5k hands during may ), currently playing nl25

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Um, about KK hand, i think we should get it in pre.
Firstly when he 3bets this big, it looks to me like he is trying to get the money in right now, because he has a medium pocket pair or AK/AQ and doesn't know what to do with it oop on the flop.

Secondly, when we put him on a range that mostly consists of medium pp we gotta apply same logic as you did on the flop. Most of the time when we see a flop it will have a high card on it that will kill all our action, but if we 4bet him pre he might actually stack off with 88-jj. And i'm pretty sure that him stacking off light pre will happen much more often then us getting a decent flop to stack same range

I think that it actually might be somewhat of a math problem so if anyone is willing to do it, that would be mad awesome

Jeeze i hope u can understand all that gibberish
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Hi

I'm Klemen from Slovenia. I've been playing poker for about a year. I'm trying to get to NL100, currently playing NL50 at Ongame. Sorry about my English in group coaching .

I've been trying 4 tabling and taking a lot of notes, it's so hard, because I never did it before, but it really pays off, I'm losing a lot less at non showdown. So here's one hand.

I just lost a little bit and haven't reload. Villain is 68/18/1.4 over 120 hand. I saw him donk betting on flop with 2 pair, he poted it every street.

Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 141764
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BTN: $58.40
SB: $42.23
BB: $81.10
UTG: $57.70
Hero (CO): $44.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with Q Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.25

I just called PF because this was his first 3 bet over 100 hands, and a couple of hands before he min raised with nuts str8.

Flop: ($6.25) 2 5 T (2 players)
BB bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25

He was Cbeting a lot, but it was mixed between pot size or half pot.

Turn: ($18.75) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $14.00, Hero folds

I called flop to reevaluate. I got a little scared because min 3bet PF and big bets. Should I just ship it in?

I think this is a fold if we put him solely on a value range as we only beat JJ (since this is his first 3bet i think AT isn't in his range) here

WTF hand i was basically trying to move him off a bigger pp and when he called me on the river i was "oh fuck, why am i even trying to do things like this " and then i saw "Mucks"

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 142287
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CO: $30.50
BTN: $24.65
SB: $21.20
Hero (BB): $58.50
UTG: $25.00
MP: $31.75

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 7
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.10) Q T Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.10) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.50, Hero raises to $7, MP calls $5.50

River: ($20.10) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $48.50 all in, MP calls $21.75 all in

Final Pot: $63.60
Hero shows 7 7 (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
MP mucks A K
Hero wins $60.60
(Rake: $3.00)

Sick play I never do plays like this. Did you have any reads?

Yo, i had that guy as 27/22 with close to 100% c-bet and someone who wants to get to showdown cheap with marginal hands

So i was thinking that when he bets turn so small he is just trying to set me up for a river c/c, like he was thinking that if he checks he might see a big river bet, but if he bets small on the turn i would just flat it and c/c river bet, so he gets to decide what the river bet size is so for me his range on the turn was 66-99, AJ/AK and maybe quads or JJ (although i doubt that), i discard hands like Tx from his range because of his pre-flop raise size. And so i thought that i can move him off the part of his range that beats me.

Didn't really expect to see him call down that light, so my read was obviously bogus

Hi

I'm Klemen from Slovenia. I've been playing poker for about a year. I'm trying to get to NL100, currently playing NL50 at Ongame. Sorry about my English in group coaching .

I've been trying 4 tabling and taking a lot of notes, it's so hard, because I never did it before, but it really pays off, I'm losing a lot less at non showdown. So here's one hand.

I just lost a little bit and haven't reload. Villain is 68/18/1.4 over 120 hand. I saw him donk betting on flop with 2 pair, he poted it every street.

Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 141764
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BTN: $58.40
SB: $42.23
BB: $81.10
UTG: $57.70
Hero (CO): $44.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with Q Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.25

I just called PF because this was his first 3 bet over 100 hands, and a couple of hands before he min raised with nuts str8.

Flop: ($6.25) 2 5 T (2 players)
BB bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25

He was Cbeting a lot, but it was mixed between pot size or half pot.

Turn: ($18.75) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $14.00, Hero folds

I called flop to reevaluate. I got a little scared because min 3bet PF and big bets. Should I just ship it in?

I think this is a good fold . . . if you haven't seen him 3bet his range is prob qq+ and aks. Since you have a read that he's playing his good hands really strong I think its a good fold.

i just got 20hands of this guy, so no reads at all. (30/5)

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 153848
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SB: $52.92
BB: $31.78
UTG: $9.54
CO: $42.90
Hero (BTN): $25.79

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $5.50, BB calls $3.25

so in this Stealsituation i dont mind to put it in preflop against him. My 3bet is alittle bit to small i think. The worst thing happens and he just calls. I put him on TT-QQ, AK..


Flop: ($11.10) 5 9 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

i decided to ck this flop cause he will call with all of his pairs, maybe AK.. so i have to fire a snd barrel on a good turn..
if i cbet and he cr i have to fold

Turn: ($11.10) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB folds

i thought this is a good card to get lower pairs to fold.
i will never have AQ here but i dont think he knows that.

atleast i gained some outs, and if he calls its not that bad

Final Pot: $11.10
Hero wins $10.55
(Rake: $0.55)