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aumorgan

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Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Limit - 7 players -
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): t420 M = 1.40
CO: t1295 M = 4.32
BTN: t900 M = 3
SB: t2915 M = 9.72
BB: t3115 M = 10.38
UTG: t2130 M = 7.10
UTG+1: t2725 M = 9.08

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with A Spade A Heart
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero raises all in, 1 fold, BTN caps!, 2 folds, UTG calls

Flop: (9.6 SB) A Diamond 6 Spade K Spade (3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG checks, BTN bets, UTG calls

Turn: (5.8 BB) J Spade (3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG checks, BTN bets all in, UTG calls

River: (6.3 BB) 3 Heart (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: 6.3 BB
Hero shows A Spade A Heart (three of a kind, Aces)
BTN shows 5 Spade 3 Spade (a flush, King high)
UTG shows J Club Q Heart (a pair of Jacks)
BTN wins 2.4 BB
BTN wins 3.9 BB

What makes someone decide to jump into a 3bet pot w 53? Do they wake up in the morning and think, "I am going to try and cause trouble for myself and others"?

Do they think it's funny?

Most of the time they are going to lose.... And the rest of the time they cause bad beats... Why would they even fucking bother...



remember, according to BBB they are 50/50 to drown in the shower..

Posted about 4 years ago

AdriennesRevenge

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AdriennesRevenge

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Alas, the reason we put our blood sweat and tears into this ... game.... : happy ending

This particular win was VERY satifying, the guy who came second had the WORST attitude problem, whole tournament he kept saying 'LOoooL limit hold'em is such BS' "llooool" at this play and that play.

Meanwhile his stats were like 42/16...
I did not realize that that was the optimal pro NL stat set up!! Silly me ^.^

Posted about 4 years ago

Isac

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Joined 01/2008

Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Limit - 7 players -
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): t420 M = 1.40
CO: t1295 M = 4.32
BTN: t900 M = 3
SB: t2915 M = 9.72
BB: t3115 M = 10.38
UTG: t2130 M = 7.10
UTG+1: t2725 M = 9.08

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with A Spade A Heart
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero raises all in, 1 fold, BTN caps!, 2 folds, UTG calls

Flop: (9.6 SB) A Diamond 6 Spade K Spade (3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG checks, BTN bets, UTG calls

Turn: (5.8 BB) J Spade (3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG checks, BTN bets all in, UTG calls

River: (6.3 BB) 3 Heart (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: 6.3 BB
Hero shows A Spade A Heart (three of a kind, Aces)
BTN shows 5 Spade 3 Spade (a flush, King high)
UTG shows J Club Q Heart (a pair of Jacks)
BTN wins 2.4 BB
BTN wins 3.9 BB

What makes someone decide to jump into a 3bet pot w 53? Do they wake up in the morning and think, "I am going to try and cause trouble for myself and others"?

Do they think it's funny?

Most of the time they are going to lose.... And the rest of the time they cause bad beats... Why would they even fucking bother...



They were sooted

Seriously though - he shouldn't have been in here, but we can't change that. Please let him cap or 3bet his 35s everytime against you, and you know what will happen.
IMO UTG shound't have been in here aswell ?

Anyway, you did what you could in this hand, but getting down to 1.4M is never funny - special not when you are still 7 handed. So your are pretty much expecting to loose this one anyway, and better do it now then on the buble IMO.

LOL I even think you badbeat here is +EV.

Posted about 4 years ago

Isac

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Alas, the reason we put our blood sweat and tears into this ... game.... : happy ending

This particular win was VERY satifying, the guy who came second had the WORST attitude problem, whole tournament he kept saying 'LOoooL limit hold'em is such BS' "llooool" at this play and that play.

Meanwhile his stats were like 42/16...
I did not realize that that was the optimal pro NL stat set up!! Silly me ^.^



Super good IMO...

However, I wound't expect this from a NL-sng-reg, they don't sit in the wrong games...

Posted about 4 years ago

PeskyAustrian

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Today's a good day the sun is shining and the bbb 50/50 thing made me laugh my arse off.

Sick cooler, I try to look at as a shorterm loan with rather large interest rate attached. Great game!

Posted about 4 years ago

PeskyAustrian

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Just had something come up that i hadn't encountered before and it got me a bit confused as how to play.

I'm sandwiched inbetween an early street maniac to my right and a true good old fashioned cap all streets with 2 cards maniac to my left. Everyone else at the table is a TAG so it's fairly easy to get out of the way if they open or start betting post flop (Isoing for them was imposible given positions so i read opens as very strong). Every hand was played the pots were massively bloated and ended always ended in showdowns.

I found myself looking down at weaker but reasonable hands preflop but got the fear as i knew just how many bets were were going to be in the pot by the turn and thought i'd never really know how good my outs were against the guy on my left. The guy on the right was really straight forward on the turn so that wasn't such a problem. I then preceded nitting it preflop to a crazy extent, my stats looked like full ring! I can't help but thinking it was wrong and i was sacrificing value.

What are the weakest hands that you'll be playing in situations like this when it's just maniac 1 you and maniac 2 to the flop?

This game rocked!

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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Congrats on another tourney win, AR!! Glad you seem to have found your niche!

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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So, I didn't take a whole month off, like I tantrum-ed I would, but I did take a few days off to study. Any comments on this hand?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 119047
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with 8 Spade 9 Spade
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls

Flop: (12.4 SB) 6 Diamond T Club 7 Diamond (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero raises, BTN calls, BB calls, UTG calls

Turn: (10.2 BB) 7 Heart (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BTN calls, BB folds, UTG calls

River: (13.2 BB) T Heart (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, BTN calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, BTN calls

Final Pot: 19.2 BB

I know I'm beat on the river, but the pot is gigantic.

Posted about 4 years ago

PeskyAustrian

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The hand looks good to me such a shame BB folded the turn that was looking promising. It's a big pot i'd call without a lot of hands on villain or a dead set read i think that's fine but maybe i'd c/c most of the time depends on the player i guess. Sometimes you'll some freaky odd Ax here getting funky but not as often as i'd expect to lose. If you've got a good read use it with confidence and don't be afraid to either. Unlucky turn or river depending on how you view it. A7 played odd or A10 played odd?

Posted about 4 years ago

Boomer

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Gah, protected pot check-raise on a double-paired board and I have a straight.

Need to be good 6% of the time....

You basically beat an overpair played by someone who's Pant's-On-Head Moronic and an Ace high which someone's got ridiculously excited about.

I think you maaaay be able to fold here, that said no-one will blame you for calling in real time....6% of the time for heaven's sake?

Posted about 4 years ago

PygmyHero

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Hi guys, the chances of neither player having a boat here on the double paired board are vanishingly small. I think checking would be the best play on the river (and I think we should get away if it goes bet, raise).

Posted about 4 years ago

Isac

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Agree with PH and would check-call 1, check-wtf-fold if it was 2BB back to me. The change of being good is so small, and the change of extra bets going in is pretty big.

Can we really fold here, I mean BTN doesn't have a boat and would the UTG play Tx or 7x this passively?

Posted about 4 years ago

Boomer

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Can we really fold here, I mean BTN doesn't have a boat and would the UTG play Tx or 7x this passively?



The words "0.25/0.5" and "Idiot Monkey Playing big hand badly" go a lot better together than "Double Paired board", "Protected Pot", "Check-Raised on the river 3-way" and "We're Good" Smile

BTN probably has a piss poor played overpair/99 that's true but I wouldn't put UTG beyond, T9, T8, JT, QT, or a terribly played 7 at all.

I mean we need to be good here one in 19 times to breakeven, I'd be surprised if we're good one in 50 times assuming we're not talking about someone who check/raises almost EVERY river if he gets to it with any hand or was a total moron.

Just ask yourself, "Name 2 hands I beat one of which is check raising a protected pot on a double paired board".

That's not a big list. As I said though heat of battle I'd probably call and then realise there may have been a better way

Posted about 4 years ago

Isac

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The words "0.25/0.5" and "Idiot Monkey Playing big hand badly" go a lot better together than "Double Paired board", "Protected Pot", "Check-Raised on the river 3-way" and "We're Good" Smile

BTN probably has a piss poor played overpair/99 that's true but I wouldn't put UTG beyond, T9, T8, JT, QT, or a terribly played 7 at all.

I mean we need to be good here one in 19 times to breakeven, I'd be surprised if we're good one in 50 times assuming we're not talking about someone who check/raises almost EVERY river if he gets to it with any hand or was a total moron.

Just ask yourself, "Name 2 hands I beat one of which is check raising a protected pot on a double paired board".

That's not a big list. As I said though heat of battle I'd probably call and then realise there may have been a better way



I don't disagree at all, though I would xc I don't expect to be good enough, but without read I can't fold and if utg is unknown, who knows he might make a pure bluff or think he is value-raising Ax. The fact that we are not LTA doesn't change anything as we beat BTN 99.99%.

So is it a good spot to xr bluff for UTG? LOL Wink

Posted about 4 years ago




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