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@DonkHero: I'm playing NL50 aswell. Sent you a PM

I play 3-4 tables cause I table select A LOT and I only got 15sec(no timebank) to think about the move I am gonna make. I am still learning and I think I wanna think about every move the max time.

Now I got a question for you Improva. How many tables can u handle? Is the thinking proccess faster after a while? Will I be able to play more tables?

How many tables do u guys play?

I play 3-4 tables cause I table select A LOT and I only got 15sec(no timebank) to think about the move I am gonna make. I am still learning and I think I wanna think about every move the max time.

Now I got a question for you Improva. How many tables can u handle? Is the thinking proccess faster after a while? Will I be able to play more tables?

How many tables do u guys play?

With 15 sec timebank I think I can play 6 tables. But it depends mostly on who many different players I'm playing against.

Hey I don't have a review nor have I read the book yet. I must say Improva, it is very tempting though and I do ultimately plan on looking you up on your book at some point in the near future.

I guess the reason for my post is that I have seen an epic improvement from someone who has read your book on these forums and I think it's worth pointing it out. I'm talking about DonkHero. I've noticed this for the past week or two and just wanted to point it out because I think he has been doing a great job lately and deserves a pat on back imo. Besides myself, he is the biggest improvement I've seen lately.

Anyway keep it up man!

Lol - thanks, I think?

I think the biggest irony in the whole thing is how I just freaking nailed the title of Olivers book (for those of you who still don't know I won the name his book contest). When I read the thread about it and how he described it, it made sense. I was thrilled to win, and was really on pins and needles to get it.

When I got it, and read it the first time, I was like Holy Crap - this book does exactly what the name says it does. I mean I was hardly a poker newb when I joined DC last year, and had spent plenty of time on 2+2, read every retail book available on poker. I had a million different concepts rattling around in my brain, but i was still playing by feel, and I didn't have a comprehensive standard strategy.

Reading Poker Puzzle almost instantly did put all of the pieces together for me. Doing the exercises (at least the ones I have done so far) were essential for me to work through the thought process, though, so just reading the book is not the silver bullet, even though it helped alot.

I have now read the book 2-3 times, done alot of the exercises, and I mean in depth, not just going through the motions. I still have a poker epiphany almost daily as I read hands posted in the forums or when I am just vegging out or whatever. So far, I have only had one lesson, and I am really looking forward to more. I know there are still huge holes in my game, but it is more like swiss chesse now than a colander.

Now if Oliver can just get me to not try to bluff the same guy off of KK in back to back hands...

Lol - thanks, I think?

yeah man it was a compliment. tbh (and not saying I was much better at the time) in the past I used to see your post in the strategy forums and they would be pretty far off or like your concepts were all bunched together. But now, with your posts I see you getting better and better and you seem wayyyy more on target.

I guess sometimes when you put in hard work it's nice to know that someone recognizes it and imo that can go a long way and give you the motivation to keep going. It does at least for me. Anyway, I could (specifically with you) tell it had happened after you had read the book so just wanted to make the comment.

Thanks man - It is appreciated. No looking back on the poker road - only forward. 5/10 or bust for me this year, imo.

Hello I got a session with Improva yesterday after I read the book, I didn't really have much coaching experience so didn't really know what to expect. Also I was very skeptical in this coaching phenomenon in general as I feel that it gets abused by many.

Anyway Improva proved me wrong, this guy is besides a player also a very good communicator, and you notice that right of the bat, besides that I feel he sincerely likes to coach, and makes a students progress a personal matter.
His workbook he made is just a great tool to help get the coaching along, you can follow everything on paper, you can read and re-read whenever you wish, and it has most of the theory you need, yet not as detailed explained as he will to you, but the general outlines are there, which makes following the conversation (def when english is not your native language) that much easier, and is above all a great startingpoint for many discussions.

I basicly watch a good 60% of all the videos on DC, LeggoPoker, BlueFirepoker. Ive read Bobbos book, I read all the forums multiple times a day, and I play fairly much. Still in this 1 session I basicly got enlightened at least once on every topic that came up. To me that means; this coach is worth it.

The only thing I hope is that he will take me as a student asap atm. Before I forget to mention; not only is he a good player, he also is a very nice guy. (to me that's important)

So, question regarding a statement on page 67 of my current copy (65 in my original). This is in the "calling 3bets" section, and in "Postflop play", Oliver says: "If there is no history I will slow play the made hands and shove the strong draws".

Can we quantify "Strong Draws"?

I would assume that we are talking 13+ outs (i.e. more than 50% equity) to a NUT hand.

But what about something like you somehow end up with JT on a 892r board, thus you have OESD for 8 outs, and 2 over cards for 6 outs to an over-pair. I would expect to find myself up against JJ-AA here a fair percentage of the time, where we are drawing dead to the over-cards.

The Reads section - More quantification.

Hoping to start some discussion around actual stat values for the different stuff in this section.

Low C-bet percentage: What is low? 50?
High Cbet Percentage: What is high >70?
Check-raise? One of my favorite stats, I feel 10% is pretty standard, I play back pretty hard if this is > 18 or so.

Other stats we should try to quantify?

So, question regarding a statement on page 67 of my current copy (65 in my original)

Does that mean the book has been updated? Where do you get the new version?

I got a pretty early copy and a pretty early revision. Honestly I couldn't tell you the difference between the 2. Im not aware of a newer revision though.

I have not made a new release yet. There are different versions in circulation but they are very similar.

I expect to release an update soon and at the same time start updating the book more frequently.

So, question regarding a statement on page 67 of my current copy (65 in my original). This is in the "calling 3bets" section, and in "Postflop play", Oliver says: "If there is no history I will slow play the made hands and shove the strong draws".

Can we quantify "Strong Draws"?

I would assume that we are talking 13+ outs (i.e. more than 50% equity) to a NUT hand.

But what about something like you somehow end up with JT on a 892r board, thus you have OESD for 8 outs, and 2 over cards for 6 outs to an over-pair. I would expect to find myself up against JJ-AA here a fair percentage of the time, where we are drawing dead to the over-cards.

A strong draw is a draw we are happy to go broke with. That is we don't need any folding equity in order to go broke.

This depends on two factors:

1) Our equity (The number of outs we have).
2) The pot to stack ratio (How much we risk compared to the dead money).

If we play 100bb poker and the action is: Villain open to 3.5bb, we call from the SB and BB folds. Pot is 8bb and villain fires a 6bb c-bet.

How much equity do we need on the flop in order to go broke if the effective stack is:
a) 50bb
b) 100bb
c) 200bb?

Ok, im pretty sure Im on the verge of an epiphany here, because I don't understand the question - which means I have something to learn here.

Part of me says this is a trick question though. If FE is irrelevant here, then we should just be turning ourselves into 'vegas' here and putting the money in when we have > 50% chance of winning the pot, which is > 12 outs on the flop. This is assuming that we are always shoving and always getting called.

Otherwise, I have no idea how to solve this...