Secret HQ Poker Forums

100NL ghost video

You need access to the member area in order to watch it.

Very good vid IMO; it's nice to watch you think. I like the setting with the 3 tables and the notes.

At 14:49, you insta-fold 88 in the blinds against a 50BB limper and the isoraise of a reg. Can you elaborate on why you didn't even consider to play this hand?

Very good vid IMO; it's nice to watch you think. I like the setting with the 3 tables and the notes.

At 14:49, you insta-fold 88 in the blinds against a 50BB limper and the isoraise of a reg. Can you elaborate on why you didn't even consider to play this hand?

misclick?

misclick?

lol. I am glad we talked that over.

one of the two things which kind of irritate/tilt me if I think about them:

We are PFR.
a) the worse our perceived strength on the flop, the more bluffcatchers are in villains range on the turn.
b) The better our perceived strength, the more bluffs we can have in our range.

a) + b) -> c) villain bluffcatches more when our bluff/value ratio is small and bluffcatches less when our bluff/value ratio is big. Shouldn't he do it just the other way round?

(sorry bigowl for not answering your post)

Mel....I'm confused by the way you stated your point. In situation "a," where villain has more bluff catchers, I'd assume he will bluff catch more, and that is where our perceived strength is weak and our bluff/value ratio is high ( #bluffs / #value hands)

You seem to be saying that villain bluff catching more when our bluff to value ratio is low ( #bluffs < # value hands) is a bad thing.

Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 149777
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $101.50
SB: $88.65
Hero (BB): $116.95
UTG: $103.20
CO: $112.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A Diamond Q Club
1 fold, CO raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, Hero raises to $13.50, CO calls $10.50, SB calls $10.50

Flop: ($40.50) 9 Diamond 4 Spade A Club (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($40.50) 6 Heart (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25.00, CO calls $25, SB folds

River: ($90.50) 5 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $74.00, Hero

sb is 34/21/2.3
co is 21/16/1.8

what is your line here ? and what would you have done in my situation ?

Im gonna think that bet flop , bet fold turn would have been good ?

Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 149777
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $101.50
SB: $88.65
Hero (BB): $116.95
UTG: $103.20
CO: $112.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A Diamond Q Club
1 fold, CO raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, Hero raises to $13.50, CO calls $10.50, SB calls $10.50

Flop: ($40.50) 9 Diamond 4 Spade A Club (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($40.50) 6 Heart (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25.00, CO calls $25, SB folds

River: ($90.50) 5 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $74.00, Hero

sb is 34/21/2.3
co is 21/16/1.8

what is your line here ? and what would you have done in my situation ?

Im gonna think that bet flop , bet fold turn would have been good ?

I would bet the flop and bet the turn. On the turn we have less than a pot size bet left => we can't really bet/fold.

so .... what do you think about my situation ? do you think its a fold or I shouldnt be thinking in this manner at all ?

so .... what do you think about my situation ? do you think its a fold or I shouldnt be thinking in this manner at all ?

It really depends on the villain. But I think it is a fold since most hands you beat are checking the river. You beat AJ and pure bluffs.

see the thing is my thinking off now , Im so afraid to get raised off the pot so Im starting to take check call lines way too often .

Like is the the check on the flop bad ?

you said bet / bet call turn . Now if he had raised this flop what would have been your play ?

Also , I would just like to add that Im having so much difficulty trying to handle c/r or raises . The ranges that I put villain on gets all blurry and I usually have no clue , so I just guess and either call , shove or fold lol . What Im trying to say is what can I do about this ? Is there some exercises you would suggest I do ?

More questions lol At least this one has to do with some stuff thats in the book

K , I was doing some board texture exercise and I have a question about value and protection .

So here is the board texture T 4 7

what is the worst hand for protection and value your betting here ?

I would think you could go as low as T8s , bc you have allot of combos that are calling here that are worst ... 88,99,56,98, and will prob be raising hands like sets and higher pairs ?

If Im off could you please explain how I should be thinking about protection and value here ?

thanks

So here is the board texture T 4 7

The interesting thing about this board is that as our TP kickers deteriorates, we start picking up BD draws. Thus the range we would normally be betting more for 'protection' become almost equal parts semi-bluff, imo.

I think in the strictest definition, I would probably be betting like QT, JJ+ there for "value" and JT/T9/T8 become more of a hand that we can feel really good about starting to get a little more fancy and apply alot of pressure on our opponents with.

With a large part of his range having some sort of draw availiable, we need to bet large to extract max value, imo. All random broadways have pretty good equity here with BDs and Overs. Any 2 cards between T and 5 or 2 and 5 have GS or open enders. Also, there aren't alot of 2p hands possible there (unless you play on pokerstars, where my opponents would somehow already have a boat on that board). Thus, if we face alot of heat on this board we can be pretty sure we are up against a set or an OESD and respond based on which our opponent is more likely to show up with based on player type and pre-flop action.

Also with a TP type hand, I am trying to think of a turn card I would be really happy about without knowing player type/preflop action.

All in IMO, of course. Im sure Oliver will set me straight.

Complete these two sentences (obviously un-related to the previous post):

I would stack off with the ___ nut flush 100% of the time on an un-paired turn vs any villain in the world - even against Oliver or Durr. (i.e. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc).

ZOMG, he stacked off with the ___ nut flush, what a freaking fish. Insta-add him to my buddy list and PM all of my friends his screen-name. Again, un-paired board on the turn.

Complete these two sentences (obviously un-related to the previous post):

I would stack off with the ___ nut flush 100% of the time on an un-paired turn vs any villain in the world - even against Oliver or Durr. (i.e. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc).

ZOMG, he stacked off with the ___ nut flush, what a freaking fish. Insta-add him to my buddy list and PM all of my friends his screen-name. Again, un-paired board on the turn.

I really don't think this can be answered generally. There will be board textures in combination with villain and his tendencies where him having a flush is really unlikely and we will stack off with almost any flush.

On the other hand for example we play against a total nit that never raises bets on the turn without the goods... Well we prob are folding our 4th nut flush etc. there pretty easily.

We can try to come up with examples on situations for the above described scenarios if you like

PS: always stack off against durrr, you know he's hyper aggro lol

see the thing is my thinking off now , Im so afraid to get raised off the pot so Im starting to take check call lines way too often .

Like is the the check on the flop bad ?

you said bet / bet call turn . Now if he had raised this flop what would have been your play ?

Also , I would just like to add that Im having so much difficulty trying to handle c/r or raises . The ranges that I put villain on gets all blurry and I usually have no clue , so I just guess and either call , shove or fold lol . What Im trying to say is what can I do about this ? Is there some exercises you would suggest I do ?

People generally c/r with semi-bluffs or for value. Some have wider c/r ranges. Until you see a player c/r a few times or you have datamined hands on him that indicate that this player c/rs a lot assume that they are inline. This means that your bluff catching range should be pretty narrow.

Is it exploitable. Hell yeah. But until you have been c/red a few times they are not even close to exploiting you.

Deal a flop. Write down the range of hands you expect to get c/red by.

More questions lol At least this one has to do with some stuff thats in the book

K , I was doing some board texture exercise and I have a question about value and protection .

So here is the board texture T 4 7

what is the worst hand for protection and value your betting here ?

I would think you could go as low as T8s , bc you have allot of combos that are calling here that are worst ... 88,99,56,98, and will prob be raising hands like sets and higher pairs ?

If Im off could you please explain how I should be thinking about protection and value here ?

thanks

Looks pretty good IMO. Against players who are using their position well I'm check calling that flop a lot. But SSNL and in most midstakes games I prefer to bet flop and pot control blank turns.