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I wrote them down on sticky notes and for every bet I made I said aloud why. Great practice and it gets easier with practice. I feel like a sensei when I bet on a flop that doesn't hit their range and I have air and take it down. Maybe a DJ sensei?

CJ sensei

CJ sensei

nice, nice!

If you guys think it's ok, I thought we might have people post hands with narration, in terms of TEC. In the following hand, I was was the pf caller so I'll narrate in terms of his perceived strength and where I was in terms of TEC.

Villain was 20/18/6 300 hands 3bet 7.5 % ...I was 16/13/inf over 58 hands at that table. We played a few pots and he seemed to use position well. I did not see him do anything crazy, and he seemed somewhat solid


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 103795
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UTG: $66.15
MP: $90.85
CO: $51.75
BTN: $66.45
SB: $27.50
Hero (BB): $53.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K Q
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1 I did not want to 3 bet, pf, because he was aggressive post and I didn't want to build a pot with this hand OOP, so I called

Flop: ($3.25) J T 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.50, Hero raises to $8, MP calls $5.50 I liked the flop and his calling my raise made me think his perceived strength was good so I figured TPGK, maybe mid pairs looking for a safe turn. My hand prolly looks inelastic and polarized to sets strong draws.

Turn: ($19.25) A (2 players)
Hero bets $15 gin. I want to build a pot hoping he has AJ, AT and he thinks I missed a FD. He might also have hit a set, on the flop, and will shove cuz the FD did not hit. Not likely but possible, MP

If you guys can add thoughts in terms of TEC, it would be really cool and helpful....

Thanks guys

On second thought, my hand must look super elastic, not inelastic, like I thought....

You mentioned that you villain seemed to use position well. Is KQo a hand that you would want to play oop vs such an opponent? You said that you didnt want to play a big hand with KQo oop, but your c/r does exactly that. What would you have done if had pushed over the top? As played yes your hand is elastic on a very wet board. I like your bet size on the turn as you are leveraging him into a decision for his stack, but what does he put you on? If he hit two pr yes its gin.

You mentioned that you villain seemed to use position well. Is KQo a hand that you would want to play oop vs such an opponent? You said that you didnt want to play a big hand with KQo oop, but your c/r does exactly that. What would you have done if had pushed over the top? As played yes your hand is elastic on a very wet board. I like your bet size on the turn as you are leveraging him into a decision for his stack, but what does he put you on? If he hit two pr yes its gin.

I did not want to build the pot pre-flop, with a 3bet....The flop was a different matter. I elected to ck raise because I like my hand and I was getting suspicious of his previous play bceause he was raising a number of my cbets, so I thought this might be a good situation to fight back.

So, our villain here opens in middle position, and calls a check raise on the flop. At this point his range was very inelastic. I think his range once he call your raise there is TP any kicker, 2nd pair strong kicker, and all sorts of weakish draws i.e. flush or str draws (combo draws might have played back harder).

I think once you check-raise the flop, he calls, and then the ace falls, his range becomes very elastic. Naked draws are not going to continue without the right price, 2nd pair and any under pairs are probably not going to continue unless they still have a draw (i.e.T8s or KT, QT, etc). What was top pair on the flop is now 2nd pair, and probably shouldn't call a bet, and of course KQ got there.

All of the Tecs say the same thing really in this spot. He will fold to large bets with most of his range, but will continue against smaller bets. i.e. if you bet 1.00 here, he is going to call with his whole range, but if you ship it you are only getting called by the tippity top of it equity wise. What we need to do here is find a bet size that makes it an error for him to call, but he will probably call anyway with the widest part of his range.

That being said, the only thing we are afraid of is a flush draw which is roughly 4:1, so we want to offer him something like 3.5:1, which is right around 8$. This is a small enough bet that he might go ahead and raise us with the top of his range as well.

Of course, this is all imo.

If he would have shoved, the flop, I would have probably had to fold. Didn't have enough equity to call..

My post wasnt published, here it is again, but 2h later^^

so if this guy is smart enough to not go broke with weak draws, I will still put this in his range.

On a so wet board vs a check-raise and he flat, I remove 2 pairs, set and strong draw from his range (like KhQh as an example)

He could also have an overpair, but if he feel your range is mostly pair, pair + draw or draw, I think he will stick in it.. he can also have blockers in his range.

Betting the flop is fine since he can have a hand he doesnt want to go to war with but would like to go to showdown. If he have turned 2 pairs, I wouldnt be worried that much because he will bet it most of the time.

So if im betting the turn, its for value and some protection and since his hand look like something like KJ-QJ, etc, then I would bet a little bit less than 3/4, because the A is a scare card but he hold now 2nd pairs + GS or something like this (that is his weaker range imo)

So the time he have 2 pairs, you should be worried to have value, but the time he have draw and TPTP, TPWK 2nPTK, etc you need to get value and I think he check back the turn too often where he can call a bet.

Sorry to not explain very well, but I think you played it fine, was thinking about betting a little bit less but with the board texture, I think this is correct.

Love the feedback. The first read I gave PP, honestly left me with a headache. I had a very hard time incorporating the lexicon with the way I currently think about likely ranges.

How are you guys digesting this from page 10 " It is much easier to to think, my perceived strength is very good, than to think, my perceived range hits the board texture hard, so when I bet I can represent a lot of strong hands." ?????

@ StnB hand

Preflop
Pretty tight dude opens from middle position. It is pretty close here between calling and 3-betting. We are going to flop bluff catchers most of the time. In the CO sure. MP I dunno. I think it is fine.

Flop
Flop come pretty draw heavy. We have a OESD but with tainted outs. How often do we think he will c-bet this flop. A c/r here is pretty standard since there are a lot of cards that we can use as scare cards on the turn.
If we check-call he might use those cards against us.
My personal default would hear be to c/r since most bluff catchers use position and just call. They don't reraise. Had we been IP I prefer a call.

We c/r and villains range is strong-weak on the turn. [Hand he was waiting to see a safe turn card with, hands that he bluff catched with on the flop but will fold to more action]. I Assume that he would reraise strong made hands on the flop. Some FD's go in the strong part the combo draws.

Turn
Gin . I would personally prefer to get value from the range of hands that were looking for a safe turn card than the weak bluff catchers that you might convince to call again. If he has a strong combo draw now is the time to milk it. Not on the river where he might have missed. Love you bet size.

Love the feedback. The first read I gave PP, honestly left me with a headache. I had a very hard time incorporating the lexicon with the way I currently think about likely ranges.

It will get a lot easier. I promise

How are you guys digesting this from page 10 " It is much easier to to think, my perceived strength is very good, than to think, my perceived range hits the board texture hard, so when I bet I can represent a lot of strong hands." ?????

A short sentence is easier and quicker to say than a long convoluted one (even in your head). That is what I trying to say with the above.

I hope that helped.

It will get a lot easier. I promise



A short sentence is easier and quicker to say than a long convoluted one (even in your head). That is what I trying to say with the above.

I hope that helped.

Thank you. That helps a lot and voila, headache gone !!!!!!!!!

Thank you. That helps a lot and voila, headache gone !!!!!!!!!

Did my hand review make sense?

Did my hand review make sense?

Yes, and thanks again. I read it a couple of times to make certain I didn't misunderstand what you said....

I appreciate all the feedback guys !!!!!!!