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BusinessGypsy

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Cake .50/1

Hero is on the Button w ADiamondTDiamond
UTG = LAG, not great
CO = Fish

UTG raises, CO 3-bet, Hero caps (probably bottom of my range, but these guys are hemorrhaging at this point)

Flop 9DiamondJDiamond2Diamond (yes, I run good on cake)
check, check, Hero bets, call, call

Turn JClub
check, check, Hero bets, UTG calls, Fish folds

River JHeart
check, Hero...

I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?

Posted about 4 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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Same table, Fish is in SB, Hero in BB with 8ClubTDiamond

Fish is very straight forward, 3-balling the flop with overpair+, raising turned top pair, etc. Does not donk. Does not slowplay. Will play draws more passively.

Fish open raises in SB, Hero calls
I'm expecting this to be top 15-20% of hands. He would open-limp otherwise.

Flop 8Heart9Club4Diamond
Fish bets, Hero raises, Fish calls
I would have expected a 3-ball from an overpair.

Turn QSpade
Fish checks, Hero...

Thoughts on the positives and negatives of a bet/check here?

Posted about 4 years ago

speirs

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It must have been - cus that's def true.

Not really sure why I posted the hand was played perfectly IMO.


Would play it the same 100%

Posted about 4 years ago

speirs

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RIVER ($16) JSpade2HeartAHeartJClubTClub

check, Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $4, HERO well well well. DO we raise for value, call, fold ?


I would just call and see what he is up to.

Posted about 4 years ago

speirs

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I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?


I would bet without thinking, a split second after that I would realize what just dropped on the river, at the same time I am getting c/r by Villain and then I call to see the bad news.

I do think you should check here because I can't come up with a hand that will call that we beat (except for a smaller flush maybe lol)

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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Both players sat down a hand or 2 ago.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 78273
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with J Club J Spade
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (12.4 SB) T Diamond 9 Heart 9 Club (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls

Turn: (9.2 BB) 6 Club (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

River: (11.2 BB) A Diamond (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 13.2 BB

Being a maniac, I'm happy that I didn't cap the flop or raise on the turn or river. In retrospect, I think I should have folded the turn because I was pretty sure that he had pair pre-flop. I somehow missed the only pairs I was beating was 88 or worse, which is inconsistant with his line. But I still think I'm making progress. Smile

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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Cake .50/1

Hero is on the Button w ADiamondTDiamond
UTG = LAG, not great
CO = Fish

UTG raises, CO 3-bet, Hero caps (probably bottom of my range, but these guys are hemorrhaging at this point)

Flop 9DiamondJDiamond2Diamond (yes, I run good on cake)
check, check, Hero bets, call, call

Turn JClub
check, check, Hero bets, UTG calls, Fish folds

River JHeart
check, Hero...

I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?



I think I'd b/f, and not check. If he's been passive up until now, he might call with a worse hand, but he'd definitely check behind if given the chance with a weaker hand. I also think he'd have quite a bit of testicular fortitude to bluff c/r that river when you've been showing strength for the whole hand.

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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Same table, Fish is in SB, Hero in BB with 8ClubTDiamond

Fish is very straight forward, 3-balling the flop with overpair+, raising turned top pair, etc. Does not donk. Does not slowplay. Will play draws more passively.

Fish open raises in SB, Hero calls
I'm expecting this to be top 15-20% of hands. He would open-limp otherwise.

Flop 8Heart9Club4Diamond
Fish bets, Hero raises, Fish calls
I would have expected a 3-ball from an overpair.

Turn QSpade
Fish checks, Hero...

Thoughts on the positives and negatives of a bet/check here?




I'd bet, putting him on AK or AJ. He'd be getting 5:1, and I'd try to get hime to make the mistake of calling - no use in letting him draw to his 6 outs for free. I imagine he'd bet AQ, JT, and 88+.

Posted about 4 years ago

Boomer

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One might say sir was a little passive with his set

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with A Spade Q Diamond
CO raises, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Flop: (12 SB) 6 Club A Club J Spade (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) T Diamond (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

River: (10.5 BB) 2 Heart (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

Final Pot: 13.5 BB
CO shows A Diamond 8 Diamond (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
BTN shows J Diamond J Heart (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows A Spade Q Diamond (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins 13 BB
(Rake: $0.50)

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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One might say sir was a little passive with his set

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with A Spade Q Diamond
CO raises, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Flop: (12 SB) 6 Club A Club J Spade (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) T Diamond (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

River: (10.5 BB) 2 Heart (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

Final Pot: 13.5 BB
CO shows A Diamond 8 Diamond (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
BTN shows J Diamond J Heart (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows A Spade Q Diamond (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins 13 BB
(Rake: $0.50)



Think he was afraid you had AA?

Posted about 4 years ago

AdriennesRevenge

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Tanenbaum book has arrived! It looks fun akshullly ^.^

Posted about 4 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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Both players sat down a hand or 2 ago.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 78273
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with J Club J Spade
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (12.4 SB) T Diamond 9 Heart 9 Club (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls

Turn: (9.2 BB) 6 Club (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

River: (11.2 BB) A Diamond (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 13.2 BB



This looks fine to me. It really depends on how much you respect UTG's range and if he is really straight forward post flop. I've honestly started to call down on paired boards more, letting him bet our hand or bet if checked to. If you respect his flop 3-bet, you're really not beating anything considering the board but AK that is jamming for some reason. TT/QQ+ beats you, 9x beats you. On the river you beat nothing imo.

What if we just called the flop, called the turn, and maybe folded this river? Anyone think this is winning more/losing less?

Posted about 4 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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Cake .50/1

Hero is on the Button w ADiamondTDiamond
UTG = LAG, not great
CO = Fish

UTG raises, CO 3-bet, Hero caps (probably bottom of my range, but these guys are hemorrhaging at this point)

Flop 9DiamondJDiamond2Diamond (yes, I run good on cake)
check, check, Hero bets, call, call

Turn JClub
check, check, Hero bets, UTG calls, Fish folds

River JHeart
check, Hero...

I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?



I would have heard from UTG on the flop, for suuure by the turn, if he held a pair, so I bet... called his raise... and he showed me what I put him on: AQhigh, bluffing a full. Smile When I took a second to think, he basically had to have A-high, so checking the river lets him get off easy, imo.

Hand reading ftw.

Posted about 4 years ago

Lysistrata

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This looks fine to me. It really depends on how much you respect UTG's range and if he is really straight forward post flop. I've honestly started to call down on paired boards more, letting him bet our hand or bet if checked to. If you respect his flop 3-bet, you're really not beating anything considering the board but AK that is jamming for some reason. TT/QQ+ beats you, 9x beats you. On the river you beat nothing imo.

What if we just called the flop, called the turn, and maybe folded this river? Anyone think this is winning more/losing less?


I totally agree. On the river, I lose to any semi-reasonable hand he could have capped. Too bad I always notice after pressing the wrong button. Poke Tongue

Posted about 4 years ago

AdriennesRevenge

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Too bad I always notice after pressing the wrong button. Poke Tongue

I do this a lot! Hard to slow down and think sometimes... well, simple concept, but hard to execute!

Posted about 4 years ago




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