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kybert'76

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Yo D.C

I am looking for 1 or 2 U.K FR only!!!! 20 to 50nl players to share hands, sweat and talk FR only once or twice a week (maybe more).

After being involved in a few DC groups the topics always go to 6 max or 1 guy runs bad and moans or the group is just too diverse to survive.

I have crushed 10nl ( VB.VB,VB) doing good at 20nl and plan to move to 50nl in the next few months.

PM me if you can relate to this or want more info

Stan

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Hey stan, I'm definitely interested but can't commit till the week after next. Once that's over I'll be happy to do sweats, hand reviews or just chat about poker.

For others on the thread I used to play a lot of 6max and I'm now playing 25nl FR on stars.

I think gambler2000ca is also interested.

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Ok, one thing I've noticed is that being live sweated and trying to type is super tilt inducing. I just can't chat and concentrate. Grin

I think this group has potential and us fullringers need to be discussing hands as the FR forum on here is pretty dead.

Posted over 1 year ago

kybert'76

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Ok, one thing I've noticed is that being live sweated and trying to type is super tilt inducing. I just can't chat and concentrate. Grin



Time to get skype going :-)

Posted over 1 year ago

kybert'76

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I think this group has potential and us fullringers need to be discussing hands as the FR forum on here is pretty dead.




+1

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Time to get skype going :-)



oh god. Am I going to need one of those headset things?

Posted over 1 year ago

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My main issue at the moment is dealing with EP opens in FR, that me opening and reacting to others opens pre and assigning ranges post.

For other situations I can fall back on my 6max experience, but these are something new to me. I'm unsure of other peoples ranges and my perceived range. I've found myself looking down at AK or QQ/JJ and simply not knowing the best way forward when facing an open or a 3bet if I opened myself. It's not just preflop either. Post I'm seeing people flatting my EP and even MP opens with things like AK/AA/KK and I need to mentally add it to peoples ranges, but only certain people. Basically I'm a bit lost.

Any vids that could help me out here?

Posted over 1 year ago

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thread13



Just watched setup artist, about to start come full circle Smile

Posted over 1 year ago

kybert'76

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My main issue at the moment is dealing with EP opens in FR, that me opening and reacting to others opens pre and assigning ranges post.

For other situations I can fall back on my 6max experience, but these are something new to me. I'm unsure of other peoples ranges and my perceived range. I've found myself looking down at AK or QQ/JJ and simply not knowing the best way forward when facing an open or a 3bet if I opened myself. It's not just preflop either. Post I'm seeing people flatting my EP and even MP opens with things like AK/AA/KK and I need to mentally add it to peoples ranges, but only certain people. Basically I'm a bit lost.

Any vids that could help me out here?




We should do some work on this.

A basic start would be UTG spots open super tight as often we will be oop on the flop so our advantage needs to be card strength and treat EP op’s as strong until we get a read.

That said at a passive table with a big fish in the blinds KQs, QJs, 44 etc. could be an open.

Threads is very good imo and adjusts his EP op range to the table ( see ep 1+2 set up artist+ come full circle) but as a standard line tight is right EP.

Stan

Posted over 1 year ago

kybert'76

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Just watched setup artist, about to start come full circle Smile


+1

On EP3 of C.F.C

Posted over 1 year ago

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My main issue at the moment is dealing with EP opens in FR, that me opening and reacting to others opens pre and assigning ranges post.

For other situations I can fall back on my 6max experience, but these are something new to me. I'm unsure of other peoples ranges and my perceived range. I've found myself looking down at AK or QQ/JJ and simply not knowing the best way forward when facing an open or a 3bet if I opened myself. It's not just preflop either. Post I'm seeing people flatting my EP and even MP opens with things like AK/AA/KK and I need to mentally add it to peoples ranges, but only certain people. Basically I'm a bit lost.

Any vids that could help me out here?


Ok so here's the thing. There's a point at which the opening ranges become narrow enough that you should have a very different strategy from wider range. It's almost like when a gas turns into a liquid or a solid into a liquid or something like that. It's a quick sharp transition that happens at some point. When a range gets narrow enough and you are both in early position you basically should tend to have no 3betting range for a variety or table conditions.

Basically look into the GTO stack off 3/4/5 bet strategy pairs for these situations. You'll find that once people get really tight ranges you have 2 options. You can flat everything. 2 you can have a super polarized 3bet range with like AA and bluffs or KK+ and bluffs depending on their tightness. You really need to work through the numbers. Do this enough and you'll see that there's clear spots to flat strong hands like AK and QQ pre vs certain ranges.

There's a ton of spots where vs an EP open it's like completely standard to flat AK, in fact it's a huge leak not to in many spots. Auto 3betting AK vs ep opens without thinking is a super common leak amongst many players. I think I'm rambling a bit here so hit me up with any questions on this.

Posted over 1 year ago

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We should do some work on this.

A basic start would be UTG spots open super tight as often we will be oop on the flop so our advantage needs to be card strength and treat EP op’s as strong until we get a read.

That said at a passive table with a big fish in the blinds KQs, QJs, 44 etc. could be an open.

Threads is very good imo and adjusts his EP op range to the table ( see ep 1+2 set up artist+ come full circle) but as a standard line tight is right EP.

Stan



After 8k hands I'm 14/13 in ep, which is a bit too loose imo, even if I account for the occasions I'm trying to isolate a fish in the blinds or not expecting any post flop problems from the players with position on me. Overall, I'm 22/18/5 or so, which again is probably a bit too loose, although I play pretty loose at 6max, say 28/22. It's just super easy to be at tables with two nits in the blinds.

I'm going to look at dropping my ep opens to about 7% or so and trying to be more disciplined about it. Too often I'm thinking "pretty hand" and opening when I should be thinking "profitable hand' and opening instead. Not that I'm losing from EP atm.

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Ok so here's the thing. There's a point at which the opening ranges become narrow enough that you should have a very different strategy from wider range. It's almost like when a gas turns into a liquid or a solid into a liquid or something like that. It's a quick sharp transition that happens at some point. When a range gets narrow enough and you are both in early position you basically should tend to have no 3betting range for a variety or table conditions.

Basically look into the GTO stack off 3/4/5 bet strategy pairs for these situations. You'll find that once people get really tight ranges you have 2 options. You can flat everything. 2 you can have a super polarized 3bet range with like AA and bluffs or KK+ and bluffs depending on their tightness. You really need to work through the numbers. Do this enough and you'll see that there's clear spots to flat strong hands like AK and QQ pre vs certain ranges.

There's a ton of spots where vs an EP open it's like completely standard to flat AK, in fact it's a huge leak not to in many spots. Auto 3betting AK vs ep opens without thinking is a super common leak amongst many players. I think I'm rambling a bit here so hit me up with any questions on this.



I've found myself flatting AK/QQ vs utg ranges a lot recently, even KK sometimes. I'm struggling a bit post flop with them, but nothing major. I mean, when someone 3barrels Kxxxx from under the gun AK starts to look less and less fun. Similar with low flop and QQ. One thing I've not seen much of at 25nl is triple barreling (although it does happen - I do it from utg with Kxxxx for example), and their value ranges crush us.

Other things I'm finding hard is adjusting to the more passive lines people seem to take at FR. It's not uncommon for someone to bet Axx then c/c c/c with AQ for example (although this could be them doing it specifically vs me, I doubt it)

Anyway, I'm kind of rambling here too. Next time something comes up along these lines I'll mark in the DB and post it up here. Cheers for the reply shuttle.

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