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I am a NL reg that dabbles in plo every now and then. I think Im gonna try to start playing it a bit more though. Moving on, I was readless in this hand. I didn't have any useful stats or anything as it was early in the session.

Preflop: could be a 3bet I suppose. I guess I am mixing it up between the two depending on how strong my aces are and stack sizes. Anyone prefer a 3bet pre?

Flop: Super coordinated board and I have the Ah for a solid blocker. I was debating whether to c/r or lead and felt its reasonable to expect this flop to get checked behind a lot of the time, so I led. Thoughts?

Turn: I wasn't expecting to get folds from random flushes/sets/etc on the flop so I think if I am going to lead the flop here I need to be prepared to fire multiple barrels.

River: Same thought process, I think I get folds from all sets, straights, etc. And I would also expect folds from a lot of flushes, though readless it might be optimistic to expect Khi or Qhi flushes to fold. Thoughts on sizing? Good or bad to fire the 3rd barrel?

Absolute Poker $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 522739
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BB: $215.70
UTG: $208.30
CO: $213.55
BTN: $998.84
Hero (SB): $209.95

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with J 4 A A
2 folds, BTN raises to $7, Hero calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($16.00) 6 5 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, BTN calls $12

Turn: ($40.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $34.00, BTN calls $34

River: ($108.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $98.00

I would 3bet this preflop here. Its early on in your match here so I find it profitable to be portraying an aggressive image. Also if you just flat this it is difficult to play this hand on most boards, especially OOP and vs a 500bb stack BTN raise given him a wider range.

FLOP: Would you lead here and for the same amount if you had the nut flush?
I think that given villian's stack he can peel here with a lot of hands. And mostly I would give up on this board after the turn brings the straight as well. With your hand and the opponent its a tough spot to be in OOP.

i think this is fine if you c/r flop. i'm not a huge fan of the lead and i actually think he cbets here a lot. this is not a terribly scary board in plo, as even with a straight you can't be super excited with your hand (he can fire many barrels!). as played i don't think you get k high/qhigh flush to fold, and you have the fact that there's several ways he can have a SF.

btw flatting this pf is 100% ok.

I prefer a flat, and I prefer a c/r on the flop. In a vacuum I think it is a better play since we can c/r small which we would have to do to get stacks in the times we do have the nuts.

Thanks for the reply's.

He ended up calling down with a straight w/9Txx. I was wondering if my line looked a little to suspicious with the flop lead. I guess that means leading here for value would be a good line but it is better to c/r as a bluff.

did he have a straight on the flop?

Flatting and 3-betting are both fine preflop but I'd probably flat more than I'd 3-bet. Postflop looks good. One thing you have to think about in PLO is when the board is 567hhh, a straight flush being out there is a reasonable possibility as there are 3 diff combos of str flushes. I'd expect most people to slowplay it too. That being said, you should be bluffing some % of the time in this spot and I'd rather have an Ah blocker than an 8h blocker.

Flatting and 3-betting are both fine preflop but I'd probably flat more than I'd 3-bet. Postflop looks good. One thing you have to think about in PLO is when the board is 567hhh, a straight flush being out there is a reasonable possibility as there are 3 diff combos of str flushes. I'd expect most people to slowplay it too. That being said, you should be bluffing some % of the time in this spot and I'd rather have an Ah blocker than an 8h blocker.

Thoughts on leading flop vs. c/r?

Thoughts on leading flop vs. c/r?

Definitely like leading. The hard hands to fold out are usually going to be non-nut flushes, and he'll check the flop with those a lot and call down 2 bets.

did he have a straight on the flop?

Ahhh.. Yeah, he actually did w/AsTc9d8h.

Ahhh.. Yeah, he actually did w/AsTc9d8h.

ok phew. otherwise he's a special kind of fish.

I'm not quite as big a fan of leading, I think its hard to represent a big hand when we just lead out here (unless he's seen us do it before). To get the best use out of your naked ace you need to represent the nut flush as best you can. I'd consider checkraising flop small, then barreling in such a way as to ship river with a 2/3-3/4 pot bet. If he checks back the flop I'd probably not try too hard to make him fold, and you may occasionally win at showdown if he lets you get there.

I'm with DJ on this one, check-raising has proven to be more effective than leading/3-barreling with the naked Ace bluff in my experience.

It seems this flop will get c-bet a lot as well, if it doesn't a turn lead should often win the pot. If that doesn't work I probably wouldn't attempt a river bet, since now his hand looks like a weak flush or straight that isn't folding. I meant we don't except him to call on the turn with anything less than two-pairs or straight, I guess we could fold some sets on the river with another bet but most of the time I think I would just give up. Obviously we need to bet sometimes to balance for the times we're getting value for our flush, which is fine since it looks like we were going for a C/R on the flop. Thoughts?

I'm not quite as big a fan of leading, I think its hard to represent a big hand when we just lead out here (unless he's seen us do it before). To get the best use out of your naked ace you need to represent the nut flush as best you can. I'd consider checkraising flop small, then barreling in such a way as to ship river with a 2/3-3/4 pot bet. If he checks back the flop I'd probably not try too hard to make him fold, and you may occasionally win at showdown if he lets you get there.

I won't lie, you guys have me changing my mind on what is best here .

But.... I think I like what Dan said the most. It seems like c/r'ing small and then barreling gives us the most fold equity and allows us to rep the nut flush fairly well.