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UTG and CO are 50/30 type laggy fish, not too aggro postflop. BTN is 70/30, no notes on them unfortunately.
What is my plan when I get a flop like this 4ways? Do I even bother getting involved on a paired board with a flushdraw? I mean the board is very disconnected, but these 4 guys can show up with almost anything. If I do wanna get involved, do I bet bigger? Smaller? Or check and see what happens?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13242492

BTN: $8.67 (173.4 bb)
SB: $2.50 (50 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.03 (100.6 bb)
MP: $10.76 (215.2 bb)
CO: $39.09 (781.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A 4 8 A
MP raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.77, MP calls $0.62, CO calls $0.62, BTN calls $0.62

Flop: ($3.10) K 5 5 (4 players)
Hero bets $2.22

The pair of 5s isn't nearly as ominous as a pair of Ts or Js so I'm not that worried here. If anyone has boat then good for them. There's 1.5 SPR so I'd probably bet something small and silly like $0.90 to hopefully induce something or string along weak FDs or pair of kings that might fold to a big bet.

Yeah I don't mind betting small and I don't mind checking either. At least if you check and see a lot of action happen behind you, you can be pretty sure someone has a 5+.

I think checking is fine 'cas if we're ahead we're really not giving anyone that good a chance to get there whilst somewhat disguising our hand (ish). And, as Schweig pointed out, we get a chance to see what happens behind us.

Thanks guys, I was hoping to get some value from Kx and worse flushdraws, plus zomg-Ihas-nutfd+overpair, but looks like I'm underestimating the chance someone has a 5.

You can answer the question of how often someone has a 5 using propokertools pql runner:

/* How often at least 1 player has at least trips on the flop */
select count(handshaving(minFlopHandCategory,FLOPTRIPS) >= 1) as TRIPPED_UP
from game='omahahi', syntax='Generic',
board='Ks5s5d',
PLAYER_1='As4s8cAc',
PLAYER_2='50%',
PLAYER_3='50%',
PLAYER_4='30%'

Results:
Trials TRIPPED_UP
600000 309693 (51.62%)

Obviously, you need to give them some sensible ranges rather than just the percentages. I've just put them there so you have something to start working with.

Don't forget to take into account someone having KK.

Don't forget to take into account someone having KK.

I think that min expression in the hand category clause should do that.

thanks, that's pretty cool although it's almost like learning a new scripting language, a little too complicated for the purpose imo.

You can answer the question of how often someone has a 5 using propokertools pql runner:

/* How often at least 1 player has at least trips on the flop */
select count(handshaving(minFlopHandCategory,FLOPTRIPS) >= 1) as TRIPPED_UP
from game='omahahi', syntax='Generic',
board='Ks5s5d',
PLAYER_1='As4s8cAc',
PLAYER_2='50%',
PLAYER_3='50%',
PLAYER_4='30%'

Results:
Trials TRIPPED_UP
600000 309693 (51.62%)

Obviously, you need to give them some sensible ranges rather than just the percentages. I've just put them there so you have something to start working with.